Any Gunsmiths out there ?

[Fred s]

c) Dealer in firearms other than a gunsmith or a pawnbroker. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to dealing in firearms as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit through the repetitive purchase and resale of firearms, but such a term shall not include a person who makes occasional sales, exchanges, or purchases of firearms for the enhancement of a personal collection or for a hobby, or who sells all or part of his personal collection of firearms;

(d) Gunsmith. A person who devotes time, attention, and labor to engaging in such activity as a regular course of trade or business with the principal objective of livelihood and profit, but such a term shall not include a person who makes occasional repairs of firearms or who occasionally fits special barrels, stocks, or trigger mechanisms to firearms;

[RodJ]

Fred, If you make "occasional repairs" you're not a gunsmith. Correct. But if you do it part time, the definition of "dealer" applies (see the last sentence of that section). This is not a clear area of the law and the ATF FAQ indicate it requires some form of FFL.

[Fred s]

until CFR defines occasional vs part time, i will place myself firmly in the occasional category

[Coupebuilder]

Originally Posted by SundownIII

Sounds to me like you've done about $50 worth of "researching" the legality, so the repair is FREE.


In the future, you may wish to just PM "yorkiepap" (a moderator here). He was a gunsmith for years and I'm sure could set the issue straight.

Thanks SundownIII....as with much of my walk in work it ends up being virtually free by the time I give them a tour of the shop, talk cars for a while, get beaten up on price etc lol. In the end it needed one dab 'o SiB and done. I would have gone with silver solder but the parts around it were painted and non-removable so I knew I could get the tig to do it with minimal damage to surrounding paint. I appreciate the constructive comments.
Now Imma gonna go weld me up sum car frames so we have them thar fiery wrecks to discuss.....heres todays project. 1941 Willys rolling chassis with a 2010 5.7 Hemi.

[brucer]

you can buy compensators over the counter, order them off the internet and so on, you dont have to have an ffl to mount a compensator.. A silencer or supressor is a different story..


for example, heres a page for a couple different bolt-on compensators for sks rifles. http://centerfiresystems.com/COMSKS03.aspx

heres a page for bolt on and pin on compensators for m4/ar15/m16's
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Flash...ators-s/43.htm

[Coupebuilder]

PS thanks to Fred for sending that info, now I have something else to keep in mind if I decide I need to venture into the gun world again.

[RodJ]

Okay, now we're back to good stuff. What on earth is going to happen with that Willys after you're done? 5.7 Hemi??? That looks like a neat project. Whats the body going to be?

I'm reminded of the four most common words spoken by a redneck right before he dies: "Hey ya'll, watch this!"

[Coupebuilder]

Originally Posted by RodJ

Okay, now we're back to good stuff. What on earth is going to happen with that Willys after you're done? 5.7 Hemi??? That looks like a neat project. Whats the body going to be?

I'm reminded of the four most common words spoken by a redneck right before he dies: "Hey ya'll, watch this!"

Ummmm its getting a 41 Willys body lol, we do a lot of them and the 5.7 is a neat setup although a big PITA when it comes to the electrical portion of the build. If we have any other car guys here I would love to see what others are doing. Any chassis suspension etc etc pics are always interesting.

[SundownIII]

coupe,

LOL. Isn't that the way it always goes.

Maybe I can take a little heat off you...

Yesterday I cut the coupler off the tongue of a 5'x10' utility trailer and am going replace the entire tongue.

Not the type work I "specialize in" but a young guy who works in the yard saved up his coins and just bought a pretty nice little utility trailer at Trailer World. Paid about $1,100 dollars for it. Real proud of it. Anyway, the first weekend (last weekend) he has it, he loads up his riding mower and carries it over his dad's house to cut the grass. Backing out of the drive, he jackknifes the trailer and bends the tongue. Not just a little, but does it right. Sunday night he calls me and explains his dilemma. Told him to drag it in and we'd get him squared away. Monday AM he goes out to hook up the trailer and finds a flat tire (nail in the tire). Thursday, he gets his money together and picks up a new tire/wheel assembly. (going to use the original as a spare).

Yesterday he brings the trailer by the shop. He did it right. Bent both 3" channels leading back to the trailer frame. Took the plasma an wacked the coupler off, so we could get to it without having to work upside down (it's reusable). Monday, he's going down to pick up a new stick of 3" channel. If I have time I'll try to snap a few photos of the completed repair.

And no, I'm not going to "weld it up" with my 90A, 120V Solar mig. Think the MM251 might be up to the task.

[Coupebuilder]

Awww come on Sundown, you already know that if you don't have the engineers report, material certs, x-rays of the weld and a personally signed certificate of super-okay-ness from Chip Foose that you will kill hundreds of Orphans in a fiery wreck! Besides, posting pics might actually show these guys that you know what you're doing...you've strung them along this far why crush their spirits now?
In all seriousness poor kid sounds like he has the same luck I do, except I would have gotten a flat on the way over to to get the trailer flat fixed

[SundownIII]

LOL,

Yepper. This is going to be one of those "high dollar" repairs.

Normally (last spring and fall) I pay this kid to rake my yard of the pine needles and pine cones. This year I may get my yard "raked" for free.

Did I mention, I hate freaking pine trees. If I wasn't in a "Chesapeake Bay Protective Zone" which limits what you can do with trees, I'd cut them all down.

[shovelon]

Originally Posted by SundownIII

Did I mention, I hate freaking pine trees. If I wasn't in a "Chesapeake Bay Protective Zone" which limits what you can do with trees, I'd cut them all down.

May the ghost of Euell Gibbons pay you a visit.

[Oldiron2]

Originally Posted by SundownIII

LOL,

Yepper. This is going to be one of those "high dollar" repairs.

Normally (last spring and fall) I pay this kid to rake my yard of the pine needles and pine cones. This year I may get my yard "raked" for free.

Did I mention, I hate freaking pine trees. If I wasn't in a "Chesapeake Bay Protective Zone" which limits what you can do with trees, I'd cut them all down.

Do you want to borrow a beaver; they have immunity from the EPA and other 'environmental' laws, are "wild creatures" so you're not allowed to bother them, ...........but I suppose the officials would hold you responsible even if it weren't your fault and you had no control over any of the situation.

[Boostinjdm]

Originally Posted by Oldiron2

Do you want to borrow a beaver; they have immunity from the EPA and other 'environmental' laws, are "wild creatures" so you're not allowed to bother them, ...........but I suppose the officials would hold you responsible even if it weren't your fault and you had no control over any of the situation.

Now Sundown III just has to build a fence to keep the beaver in.

[Coupebuilder]

Just so long as he takes pics of all the welds on the fence and posts them

[SundownIII]

I really like the beaver idea, unfortunately it has two drawbacks.

1. Beavers don't like salt/tidal water. They prefer freshwater streams.

2. One of the pine's (about 18" in diameter), would fall right on my house. Don't think even Jack Hanna (the animal trainer) could teach a beaver to run a bucket truck.

[Oldiron2]

Originally Posted by SundownIII

I really like the beaver idea, unfortunately it has two drawbacks.

1. Beavers don't like salt/tidal water. They prefer freshwater streams.

2. One of the pine's (about 18" in diameter), would fall right on my house. Don't think even Jack Hanna (the animal trainer) could teach a beaver to run a bucket truck.

Well, if you got a stuffed beaver and planted him somewhere in the area, looking good...and then ground an axe so it left cuts looking like tooth marks, the officials would probably be too ignorant of the facts to figure things out.

The problem of the falling tree might be solved by getting rid of all the other trees first, then claiming hardship saying the beaver is likely going to fall the last one on your house, it can't be stopped, so you need a tree company to remove it first before you have to sue the state for allowing your house to be destroyed by its animals....

I don't know why I'm giving you these good ideas...I like trees, pines included. Pines are particularly delicious....

Yep, I used to lunch with Euell Gibbons

[Boostinjdm]

Originally Posted by SundownIII

2. One of the pine's (about 18" in diameter), would fall right on my house. Don't think even Jack Hanna (the animal trainer) could teach a beaver to run a bucket truck.

He doesn't have to drop the tree. Just damage it enough to require removal.

[ExpatWelder]

Originally Posted by brucer

you can buy compensators over the counter, order them off the internet and so on, you dont have to have an ffl to mount a compensator.. A silencer or supressor is a different story..


for example, heres a page for a couple different bolt-on compensators for sks rifles. http://centerfiresystems.com/COMSKS03.aspx

heres a page for bolt on and pin on compensators for m4/ar15/m16's
http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/Flash...ators-s/43.htm

You DO NOT need to have a FFL to own, or mount a supressor or silencer, in states where posesssion of such devices are legal.