#1  
Old 04-30-2012, 09:26 AM
Roosterjcogburn Roosterjcogburn is offline
Solderer
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 3
Hi and could anyone help me out?

I have a 1980 lincoln weldanpower 150. I was just wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to hook up or wire up the charging system? The little welder runs good, will run tools and weld great. I just can't figure out how to wire up the volt metter and how to get the battery to charge itself? Thanks for any help on this!!
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-30-2012, 10:32 AM
Tool Maker Tool Maker is offline
WeldingWeb Foreman
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Oregon
Posts: 500
Re: Hi and could anyone help me out?

Plug a battery charger into the little slots that you run tools from. then hook the battery charger up to the battery. That should do it. Mac
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-30-2012, 12:05 PM
Farmerboy Farmerboy is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 129
Re: Hi and could anyone help me out?

I have no knowledge of that welder, but I would suggest to find the engine manual and see what it has in the wiring diagram, possibly the welder manual would have it as well,

the battery may not be charing if the alternator in the engine is not working, or if the charge controler or regulator is not working, usually the amp gage is hooked up to the wire coming from the battery to the on switch (not the wire going to the starter), a volt meter is usually just attached so it is powered with the on switch, the amp meter unless there is a coil on it the wired is an in and out.

the picture is from a Briggs to my understanding but most other make would be similar,
image from http://www.doityourself.com/forum/ou...r-magneto.html

depending the inginition type the power or on and off or kill switch may be wired diffrnetly,
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 05-06-2012, 03:30 PM
MoroneysWelding MoroneysWelding is offline
WeldingWeb Journeyman
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: South Florida
Posts: 73
Re: Hi and could anyone help me out?

http://www.lincolnelectric.com/asset...oln3/im287.pdf
__________________
Millermatic 251
Miller Bobcat 225
Lincoln 135
Victor Oxy/Fuel
Older Thermal Dynamics 50 amp (paid $700 with 10 sets of consumables)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 05-06-2012, 04:13 PM
duaneb55's Avatar
duaneb55 duaneb55 is online now
Master Welder
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange, TX
Posts: 8,373
Re: Hi and could anyone help me out?

Rooster - as I stated in your other thread, the electric start version of the W&P150 uses a charger board that charges the battery from the generator AC output.

If you don't want to use Tool Maker's method with a small battery charger, you're going to have to find a donor Kohler engine of the same series that is set up with a flywheel alternator system. They come in a range of unregulated and regulated outputs and would require pulling the flywheel to mount the alternator stator and likely require using the donor flywheel as well as it would have the magnets required for the system to work.

To be honest, Tool Maker's idea isn't at all a bad one and a small, inexpensive charger could probably be disassembled to remove its control board which could then be mounted inside the welder enclosure and permanently connected with protection fuses on the input and output circuits. Just a thought.
__________________
MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
Syncrowave 180SD
Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
HF-251D-1
PakMaster 100XL
SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
Star Jet 21-110

Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 05-07-2012, 01:26 AM
ccawgc ccawgc is offline
WeldingWeb Artisan
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Ceres, California
Posts: 1,999
Re: Hi and could anyone help me out?

If you know anybody good in electronics. You might be able to find a battery charger used in the RV industry and adapt it to work. Long time ago I used one to repair a battery powered UPS that lost the charger part of its control system. The 1 to 5 amps trick chargers are only about 1 and 1/2 inch square.
Do you have the Lincoln charger pcb. Looking at the diagram in the owners manual it doesn't look to difficult to rebuild. The week point could be the external 40 watt resister that drops the exciter voltage down and limits the charge current. And a SCR to limit down as the battery charges up.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:50 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Penton Media, Inc. All rights reserved.