Anti-Spatter

[aczeller]

okay... i got this stuff the other night...

http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/s...k=P_PartNumber

it works GREAT!!!! i sprayed it onto my practice piece and laid a decent bead with my LE 100HD. a soon as i started to use the brush on thebead, the spatter came right off... i have to admit, when i bought it i wasa littel skeptical, but not any more. any work i do that requires any sort of decent finish, i will spray this stuff on there first. it leaves a little bit of a odor while welding, but it's nothing that one can't get used to.

anyway, to my question... i also bought a 10-pack of .035 tips and was wondering if it was a good idea to spray the tips with the anti-spatter spray before i start welding? i don't see anything wrong with it, but i wanted to make sure before i started breaking my machine.

thanks!

Later,
Andy

[Go1lum]

There should be no problem with it. After all they make a nozzle dip that you dip the whole nozzle and contact tip in to reduce spatter. -Gollum

[zapster]

Non stick cooking spray is only $1.29..

...zap!

[olddad]

A stiff 2 or 3 inch putty knife will outlast several cases of spray and take off all but the toughest of splatter.

[mynameisaric]

Originally Posted by zapster

Non stick cooking spray is only $1.29..

...zap!

I heard generic works better than PAM. I havent tried either yet, but if the need arises, i will definitely try it. Do you just spray it over the prepared metal? and it won't cause weld contamination...? I've heard quiet a bit about cooking spray/antispatter but not much on how it is used.

[zapster]

Dont spray it where your actually welding..
Use it on the outside edges..


...zap!

[weldgault]

Zap is correct, it can cause porisity. John

[tapwelder]

That stuff is pricey.

I use a product called weld-kleen 350 by Weld-it. It comes concentrated, add water and spray. I get it in gallon bottles and dilute it 3-1 in a spray bottle. I got my last gallon for $12. I think works out cheaper than cooking spray, also. Good stuff for spraying your work table.

[WelderBoy]

Originally Posted by weldgault

Zap is correct, it can cause porisity. John

Get the kind guaranteed not to cause porosity then...

I use that stuff at work (different brand). I used to use the spray cans, but after having a can get punctured in a confined space and almost kill me I started buying the "Jell in a jar" style anti spatter. I wait until my contact tip/nozzle gets real hot then dip it right in. It comes out with a nice thin protective layer on it. Works great! But smells like **** when it burns...

[Brett]

Originally Posted by olddad

A stiff 2 or 3 inch putty knife will outlast several cases of spray and take off all but the toughest of splatter.

I'm with olddad there , cant remember the last time I used anti splatter or nozzle dip even though it right next to the welder.
Mine is almost exclusively ally and I findb that I post weld give it a once over with a scotch brite linisher ,pipe polisher or drum depending on the profile prior to sending it to the powder coater. Splatter is removed in that process.

[gnm109]

I use the nozzel gel and dip the nozzle in it when it's still hot before the next weld. It works very well to reduce spatter. It also helps to keep the tip very clean.

The spray works well also.
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[aczeller]

Originally Posted by WelderBoy

I used to use the spray cans, but after having a can get punctured in a confined space and almost kill me I started buying the "Jell in a jar" style anti spatter.

i used the spray on the tips tonight (left the can under my make-shift welding table to not have the can explode. never thought about it until WelderBoy mentioned it... thanks!) and it worked great. i was able to wipe the tip clean with my gloves, rather than having to chip of the spatter off the tip. it works great. i also noticed that when i used the spray on the tip, it really helped keep the spatter off the work. there was still some (the jell probably works better), but there was a lot less compared to when i didn't use the spray...

thanks everybody for the input!

Later,
Andy

[olddad]

I think there's some confusion going on here. "Anti-Splatter", "Nozzle Gel" or whatever else they name their product does nothing for your welded surfaces unless sprayed on the surface itself. If there is a difference noticed (as mentioned) on the sufaces of the weld material it is because you are doing something correct. Your nozzle/tip treatment didn't do it, it's just a coincidence.

[aczeller]

Originally Posted by olddad

If there is a difference noticed (as mentioned) on the sufaces of the weld material it is because you are doing something correct.

I like you'r thinking!!! hehehehe. . i never thought i woudl be getting good enough to hear anyone say that on here. it is by no means anywhere near professional quality, but it is nice to hear that i am making som eprogress, no matter how small.

thanks again everybody!!!


Later,
Andy

[weldgault]

What is spatter, if not the incorrect wire feed speed, voltage, ESO, travel speed and ETC. John

[olddad]

Originally Posted by aczeller

I like you'r thinking!!! hehehehe. . i never thought i woudl be getting good enough to hear anyone say that on here. it is by no means anywhere near professional quality, but it is nice to hear that i am making som eprogress, no matter how small.

thanks again everybody!!!


Later,
Andy

My pleasure Sir.

I usually don't post after I think a question has been answered. Exceptions are when I feel there is confusion or when I believe there has been false information given. Also when a particular subject is something of personal interest to me or I feel another member to be better qualified to answer a certain question. Many think my lack of positive input and seemingly vast amount of negative input sizes me up as just another internet PIA. When I came here it was to ask a question of one of the many knowledgable folks here, I had an electrical question for MAC702, I did not address him directly but knew he would respond. There are several others here I have a great deal of respect for also. There are a lot of sincere welding newbies here that want the help and knowledge to improve and learn. You guys are on the right track...this is a great place to get that info.
To surmise all that drivel I just typed, you generally get good info here. When I respond (as stated above) it usually leads to a pissing contest. So if we're not giving pats on the back and kudo's for knowledge learned or improvements made, pay attention, you must be getting good info !!

[tapwelder]

Raking a file across the metal knocks of a lot of metal too.