Finally!! The scooter

[Bikespot]

This is the scooter i built at school over the year.

For any of those who was around last year around this time , you may have heard me talk about building it. At that time i was playing around with a small trimmer engine to get it to work , but i basically wasted ALOT of time on that. Learn from my experience , dont waste your time with any engine that is not made for some kind of use like this. 1. Clutch will never work 2. Not very good mounts.

Finally , i got it finished and working good. I finally got it home. Its got a 49 CC 2 stroke pocket bike engine , with expansion chamber exhaust pipe. It is loud , and i did figure out how fast it goes about 35 kmph. I do have some small problems here and there , but overall its good.

Dont worry it will get a paint job sometime. It looks ugly , i hope you like the purple kid bike rims






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[Bikespot]

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[tanglediver]

You are one dangerous puppy! I wouldn't ride one of those on a bet!
BTW, did you say 35 kmph? Kilo Miles Per Hour? Maybe on re-entry!!!

[Bikespot]

Originally Posted by tanglediver

You are one dangerous puppy! I wouldn't ride one of those on a bet!
BTW, did you say 35 kmph? Kilo Miles Per Hour? Maybe on re-entry!!!

Its not that scary , i wouldn't mind going a little faster.

Here in Canada its Kilometers per hour , yes i did say 35 kilometers per hour. I saw that picture before.

[Big_Pink_Snapper]

Where in Ontario are you?? I'd love to try this thing! lol

[David R]

I like it.

35 kmph = Thirty five thousand miles per hour. EeeeHhaaa!!


David

[Carl26]

The pics in the first post didn't work for me. Cool though. I am really thinking about putting a 80cc motor on my bike. I'm just trying to find the best price for the kit right now. I have seen some on Ebay for around $150 and some up to $300.

Apparently they have a top speed of around 35 miles per hour and get around 150 mpg. That's much better than my F250 Super Duty which gets around 10 mpg. I've been reading a lot about them on www.motoredbikes.com

It's kind of funny looking at pics of the way some of these guys rig things up. Weldors they are not, but it's all good. Here is one of the bikes I saw that I really liked.

[Bikespot]

The first pictures disappeared , must be some kind of time limit for attached files because of the way i did it. I cannot edit it , can someone fix that for me.

I live in K-W area.

I got the engine off ebay last summer for something like 60-70$ plus shipping like 30-40$. I was thinking of going bigger engine but i looked and anything over 50cc is to heavy , not much of a point. As for how much gas it takes , i'm really not sure. I haven't gone anywhere far to say , only around the track and such. It does pretty good though.

I saw a guy on a bike like that not to long ago , was going faster than i would be on the scooter.

[comp]

Originally Posted by Carl26

The pics in the first post didn't work for me. Cool though. I am really thinking about putting a 80cc motor on my bike. I'm just trying to find the best price for the kit right now. I have seen some on Ebay for around $150 and some up to $300.

Apparently they have a top speed of around 35 miles per hour and get around 150 mpg. That's much better than my F250 Super Duty which gets around 10 mpg. I've been reading a lot about them on www.motoredbikes.com

It's kind of funny looking at pics of the way some of these guys rig things up. Weldors they are not, but it's all good. Here is one of the bikes I saw that I really liked.

i like that you find a cheap link add it here

[stevinator]

How do you guys find the sprockets? And how do you go about fastening them to the bike and scooter wheels?I think this is kind of interesting.My neighbor has a bike with a motor but I believe it is electric,I'll have to check it out when he's not on night shift.

[Carl26]

Will do comp. I take back my comment about them not being good weldors. This guy did a good job welding the frame and tank on his bike. Sorry Bikespot for hijacking your thread. I'll stop now. Your scooter is neat!

[zapster]

Your Insane!!!

I like it though..

Make sure to wear identification...

...zap!

[comp]

Originally Posted by Carl26

Will do comp. I take back my comment about them not being good weldors. This guy did a good job welding the frame and tank on his bike. Sorry Bikespot for hijacking your thread. I'll stop now. Your scooter is neat!

OOoooooooooh Dammmmmmmm thats cool ,,i want one

[Carl26]

Originally Posted by stevinator

How do you guys find the sprockets? And how do you go about fastening them to the bike and scooter wheels?I think this is kind of interesting.My neighbor has a bike with a motor but I believe it is electric,I'll have to check it out when he's not on night shift.

Good question. I'm not sure how Bikespot did it, but the bicycle engine kits come with a sprocket that mounts to the spokes. There is a plate that you put behind the spokes and the sprocket goes on the outside of the spokes obviously. I personally don't like the idea of putting torque on the spokes and I have read about people actually breaking spokes because the bolts weren't tight enough and they actually started rubbing on the spokes.

I think if you are really good you can weld or braze a sprocket to the hub of the wheel, but I'm not sure how the heat would affect the hub. It might warp. I'm not too familiar with bicycle hubs so I'm not sure if you can disassemble it, weld it, and then reassemble it. I think the heat would affect the bearings and grease inside the hub.

So what I plan to do is buy another rear wheel that is compatible with both standard rim brakes and disc brakes, then I'll use the disc brake mount to mount the sprocket to the hub. I will have to laser cut some kind of adapter plate to make it work.

[Bikespot]

Originally Posted by stevinator

How do you guys find the sprockets? And how do you go about fastening them to the bike and scooter wheels?I think this is kind of interesting.My neighbor has a bike with a motor but I believe it is electric,I'll have to check it out when he's not on night shift.

The sprocket i got from a few blocks down , they sell pocket bikes , and some parts here and there.

I did have to bore out the center (well on the lathe) so it would fit on this flange on the regular bike sprocket , then weld it on from there. Doing it this way is not perfect , its a little wobbly but it works. Scooter wheels is from a little kids bike , 12" tires , smallest bike for children.

To add to that , i didn't do anything to the back bike wheel , all i did was weld the sprocket. I just put a few Mig tacks here and there. Seems to be holding fine.

Thanks Zap! I got a nice full face helmet. Now i just need a decent place to ride it where i wont get yelled at. Its pretty loud , i did find a way of making it quieter though , i just put this cloth material that came in exhaust raped around the end of the pipe.

[zapster]

Upon a second much more detailed looksee..

You only have FRONT brakes???

Bad move..
Time to engineer rears to that..

...zap!

[Bikespot]

Originally Posted by zapster

Upon a second much more detailed looksee..

You only have FRONT brakes???

Bad move..
Time to engineer rears to that..

...zap!

I forgot to add ... yes it only has front brakes.

The reason i only have front i because there is NO space to put them at the back. Well for the type of brakes thats on the front. I might be able to put some other style on , but i would have to make a bracket. What would i do for a lever then , there already is gas on the right and brake on left side. Really it hasn't been that bad , the front ones do work.

[Carl26]

I''ve heard of people putting steel wool inside the muffler to quiet it down. I'm not sure if it actually works though.

[comp]

Originally Posted by Carl26

I''ve heard of people putting steel wool inside the muffler to quiet it down. I'm not sure if it actually works though.

yes it works ,,i have used SS pads several times

[zapster]

Originally Posted by Bikespot

I forgot to add ... yes it only has front brakes.

The reason i only have front i because there is NO space to put them at the back. Well for the type of brakes thats on the front. I might be able to put some other style on , but i would have to make a bracket. What would i do for a lever then , there already is gas on the right and brake on left side. Really it hasn't been that bad , the front ones do work.

Never say never..
My Ski-Doo has a very small disc brake opposite the clutch..
The master cylinder is very small and you could adapt that kind of set up to the jackshaft of the engine..

There are many used sled parts places in Canada eh?
Member wog820 is adapting a disc brake set-up from a Honda Motorcycle to his Railroad Speeder so it stops the rig faster than the wheel brakes..
ANYTHING is possible..
Think about it.

...zap!

[Bikespot]

Originally Posted by zapster

Never say never..
My Ski-Doo has a very small disc brake opposite the clutch..
The master cylinder is very small and you could adapt that kind of set up to the jackshaft of the engine..

There are many used sled parts places in Canada eh?
Member wog820 is adapting a disc brake set-up from a Honda Motorcycle to his Railroad Speeder so it stops the rig faster than the wheel brakes..
ANYTHING is possible..
Think about it.

...zap!

Almost everything is possible , i never said it wasn't possible.

It would have to go directly on the wheel for it to work , because the gear can turn freely if there is no pressure on it. Just like on a bike wheel.

I''ve heard of people putting steel wool inside the muffler to quiet it down. I'm not sure if it actually works though.

Anything that absorbs sound , that is not so flammable will work. I'm not exactly sure what the cloth is , something with alot of fine fibers. Might be some kind of plastic, but i know it works.

[welderShane]

nice!!! i like it

[zapster]

Originally Posted by Bikespot

Almost everything is possible , i never said it wasn't possible.

It would have to go directly on the wheel for it to work , because the gear can turn freely if there is no pressure on it. Just like on a bike wheel.

Well then you have a starting point..
Couple of small brackets for the caliper...
Comon!! You can do this..

...zap!

[Bikespot]

Originally Posted by zapster

Well then you have a starting point..
Couple of small brackets for the caliper...
Comon!! You can do this..

...zap!

Are we talking disc brakes here? I would have to put a rotator on then , not sure where that would fit , let alone where it could attach.

I did think of something though , i think they do these on some bikes. Where the sprocket on the back wheel is used as the brake rotator.

[CrimsonWelder]

No way i would ride that without my full leather track suit, boots, gloves, and helmet for the sportbike... i can see that rear wheel falling off.

it looks like something you would see in one of those trips to some third world place.