alu sailboat buliding

[zeyang]

thanks for all support. even if feels i hit a train head on, it gets better every day, but i learn how vulnerable we humans are constructed. just a small metalbar hitting head on could mean the end of any dream, so I hope others will learn from my stupid mistake here.


reg built in stress. yes, to some degree those plate is forced into position by clamps, but are fully welded on both side with 2 cm overlap. i will be very surprised if those break up in a storm. Not a single weld is welded on one side only below waterline. It is always a backupweld. plate or whatever on inside if i couldnt reach the weld from inside, then i have waterproof bulkhead in front and back as safety.

zeyang

[Shox Dr]

Jay-us H Keyriced. Fella. Go easy.

Pitty they couldn't of put a bit of your boat in there.


Get well soon, the wait is killing us

[rlitman]

Originally Posted by zeyang

reg built in stress. yes, to some degree those plate is forced into position by clamps, but are fully welded on both side with 2 cm overlap. i will be very surprised if those break up in a storm. Not a single weld is welded on one side only below waterline. It is always a backupweld. plate or whatever on inside if i couldnt reach the weld from inside, then i have waterproof bulkhead in front and back as safety.

zeyang

Maybe someone here can better clarify this, but I would think that the stresses induced by clamping in this situation would be relieved by the heat from welding on the plate -twice-.
Of course that would induce its own stresses as the weld cools, but they may not be the same as existed before the weld existed.

As an experiment, it would be interesting to see some similarly arranged and clamped parts welded, and then see how the parts move when the welds are ground out and the clamps are removed.

[zeyang]

we are still working on the frames. we did some modification of the bending machine to speed up process. Did also plant out herb in the garden and took care of the bees.. not exactly welding but good to do some other stuff than boatbuilding all day.
zeyang

[kjlindgr]

Incredible pictures! Glad to see you are back on your feet and doing well too.

[SailandOar]

Glad your feeling better !!
Glad your bees are not suffering from CCD. (colony collapse disorder) !!

Be well,
. . . . . . Do good work,
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Keep in touch.

[jdh239]

Pretty place you live at. As I don't speak Chinese, where are you located?

[zeyang]

those pictures are just north of Oslo. Such great nature is hard to find in china. so better buy up land outside china. :-)


Z

[SabreKai]

damn Ze, I go away for a month to move and you bash your head in. Hardheaded Vikings is right.

Anyway, glad you are ok, it sounds like it was a near thing. Next time, Duck!

Anyway She is coming along nicely. The frames you have in look fine and will make great places to anchor the interior components to, as well as the ceiling to keep the insulation in place.

I love the area you are living in, thats some of the richest soil I've seen in a while. Your crops should be bountiful. Do you grow a lot of your own food? Great healthy lifestyle to be living.


Sabre

[mb_welder]

You know, I spent two months in Japan, but I've never been to china. The thing that I remember most about Japan (apart from the great family that accepted me as one of their own) is the scenery once you get out of the cities!

Regardless, What I love about your boat build is how it's built plank style. It will definately add a lot to the final, traditional appearance of the boat!

May your skull recover, and may the headache involved with that process be minimal!

[jdh239]

I lived in South Korea for a couple of years. Country side was definitely much better than the cities.

[zeyang]

Dear Friends.


Sailing the farm tribe - Mid July 2010.

At last, the frames are bend into the boat and soon finished welded
up. That was one long and tedious work but now we are soon moving on
to a much more exiting stuff - laying down the deck and start work on
the interior - then also start to sew up the sails for the boat.

There have been quite a response from last time and august is pretty
much filled up with people coming up to help on boatbuilding and
farming. Somehow the romantic touch of roaming the seven seas as a
wannabe seagypsy seems to attract much more people than we ever
dreamed of, so hopefully in future we will have more boats built and a
real seafaring community. At least that is my wet dream!

Then some farming stuff. The grey cat got 4 kittens some weeks ago,
some very adorable small kittens. One is looking curious at the
boatbuilding. Queen-breeding goes forward as planned. I think we will
manage to more than double amount of hives this year - that is pretty
good. It would not have been possible without help from a swedish
boatbuilding girl which seems to fall in love with queenbreeding
despite quite a few bee-stings during summer. :-)

We have some beds free for september and onwards, so if you are
interesting in joining this uber-cool sea-gypsy tribe project, feel
free to contact us!


Peace and love from
Sailing-the-farm


---
Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse

[Shox Dr]

Money is tight at the moment what with extending the workshop, and the down turn in work over here (UK) other wise I'd be on a flight coming to help you for a week...month...

Never say never though I might win the lotto tomorrow

[zeyang]

thanks.
Lots of people are coming in august and september so thats good news. Even some guys already start to book for october and november. Mostly get people from wwoof system and couchsurfing places these days.

Zeyang

[zeyang]

hi,
I need to start to figure out what kind of portable welding machine we should bring while sailing.
There was a surplus army sale on this Esab 150 Ah machine, but i wonder if its too small to be usable.
Im looking for a generator+welding machine in one piece hopefully.

Any ideas? Basically a TIG machine should be ok.. Its just for repair onboard and welding up small stuff. Not for building another boat.

Any hints of a tigmachine + genset in one.


Zeyang

[DSW]

It's tough for many of us to make a good suggestion not knowing what's available to you over there. Miller's Trailblazer 302 does AC tig with the right accesories, as would the Bobcats. I'm sure Lincoln has an engine drive that would fit the bill also. You might be better off with a standard gen set that can run your existing machine, since space may be a premium and 2 engine drive gen sets would take up a bit of space. You would then most likely have the option of a second genset for power in an emergency. You also want to keep in mind what your fuel is for the boat motor and make sure they match. It would suck to be stuck because you've got a gas powered welder, and you've had your fuel contaminated, yet have plenty of diesel for the boat. I can think of at leaast one example of issues like this that happened to ships in WWII.

[Weldordie]

Realizing it's not tig, but you might, also, consider a battery powered Ready Welder.

[barefooter14]

i would say just get a gennee and run an existing tig machine off of that. it will take up the size of your welder more room than a welding gennee. some new gennees are quiet and can go a good while on the tank of gas(depending on how much you need it, i run 7 gallons of gas in my gennee and will run it for 11 hours of welding before i need to refill it). If you look for a gennee just get one that is at least 8kw that way you can also run lights, grinders, ect. while the welder is running.

[flydrifter]

Hmmm...what kind of "herb" are you growing???

[zeyang]

Sailing the farm tribe - Mid august 2010.


Dear Friends.

Its been a busy august. 9 happy boatbuilding girls and guys have been
here during august and it has been quite busy. We have done quite a
lot of work on the boatproject and have been workingon important but
tedious small stuff like watertanks, coolingtank etc.

We are also working on finding ecovillages on different continent
which we will be a part of the plan when the journey begins. In short
we will sail between ecovillages and change crew and stock up with
food to reach other ecovillages on different continents. if you know
about some ecovillages close to sea which could be interested in
participate please inform us.

But we will try to be as selfsufficient as possible onboard and will
test a small scale hydrophonic solution to grow vegetables while
sailing with as little water usage as possible. Not easy on a boat but
hopefully manage to get some fresh food... (getting enough water is
always problem on a boat)

Then some farm news: We are expanding the garden to grow more tasty
vegetables next year. Even if the fall is coming soon we will try to
grow some more fast growing salads until snow is coming. Our extremely
slow growing tomatoes will be moved indoors and continue with help of
growlamp in our greenhouse. Bees are doing good and we have already
processed some delicous honey from this year. (pure organic stuff)

We have some space for late september and onwards if you are
interested in joining this sea-gypsy project. Just drop us a line.


Peace and love from
Sailing-the-farm

Then some pictures. (we are not always working, one picture is a bunch
of happy boatbuilding guys after swimming in the lake)


--
Navigare necesse est, vivere non est necesse
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[Indywelder]

Wow - I never fail to be impressed with this thread. Zeyang takes on a project that most of the rest of us would just dream about.

Then gets a bunch of young women and other folks to come help him weld it together.

It blossoms into a full fledged granola project to sail around the world and grow hydroponic vegetables, and visit ecovillages - In the US I recommend Portland, Eureka California, Seattle and then definitely San Francisco - our finest Eco Villages.

Jeez, I built a swingset for my kids when I was younger...

[zeyang]

here is a cool project.
the girls decide that a real ship should have a real gallionfigure, and since one of the girl makes sculptures in bronze she figure it would be also possible to make it in alloy:-)
basically they made a template of the bow, and the model had to lay on that template to keep the same shape to make it easier to weld later on.
They then used alginate (the blue stuff ) and some plaster to make a female mould. Its crazy how that alginate stuff makes it detailed. this is the same stuff the dentists are using...

Ze

[MarkBall2]

Aww man, you had the girl wear a bra? Any self respecting galleon figure should be bare chested. I think it should be re-cast & the gal take one for the team.

Send me a ticket, I'll be over to supervise the application of the form. I am a nurse ya know!!!!!!!!!

[airbag]

Originally Posted by MarkBall2

Aww man, you had the girl wear a bra? Any self respecting galleon figure should be bare chested. I think it should be re-cast & the gal take one for the team.

Send me a ticket, I'll be over to supervise the application of the form. I am a nurse ya know!!!!!!!!!

a creepy nurse!

[MarkBall2]

Nawww, just one experienced in Anatomy..............Female anatomy using the braille system............