Which plasma?

[tpierce]

I need to cut from 16 ga. up to 3/16" plate, with some short cuts in 1/4" angle and bar. I'm considering the Miller 375 extreme, and the Hypertherm Powermax 30. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks.

[LarryO]

DO a search.
This is a question that has been asked many times. Almost once a week.

There is a lot of info on this board that will answer your question without ask, all people need to do is use the search function.

[Rojodiablo]

Originally Posted by tpierce

I need to cut from 16 ga. up to 3/16" plate, with some short cuts in 1/4" angle and bar. I'm considering the Miller 375 extreme, and the Hypertherm Powermax 30. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks.

If you are keeping it small, and want a small machine, I have a Lincoln Pro-cut 25. It will cut up to 3/8" steel. It does cut aluminum to 1/8" well. It flies through 1/8-3/16" steel. I like it because I can use it on 110 or 220V. If you want to cut bigger stuff, step up a size to a Hypertherm PM 30. I sometimes wish it was stronger for thicker aluminum; but I am always happy when I have to cut stuff and I can just run off of household current. Plug in and plasmacate.

[piniongear]

Originally Posted by tpierce

I need to cut from 16 ga. up to 3/16" plate, with some short cuts in 1/4" angle and bar. I'm considering the Miller 375 extreme, and the Hypertherm Powermax 30. Does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks.

You may want to contact HTP Welding.
http://www.htpweld.com/
I have owned an HTP 625 Mircrocut 625 for years now. This is one size larger than you need but HTP will have a 375 machine and it should be an inverter too. I believe you may find the price is a bit better too.......... pg

[DesertRider33]

Powermax 30 would be my choice. I'm very happy with my Powermax 380.

[smawgmaw]

I tend to prefer the Lincoln brand overall when it comes to the big 3. But in this instance, If given the choice between the three (Lincoln, Miller, Hypertherm), I definitely would choose the Hypertherm Powermax 30. Reasons: Power (capability), dual voltage (110-220), and price. Although, the Lincoln and Miller are probably good machines, I feel they are overpriced compared to comparable units found from other manufacturers.

[tikiboi13]

Thanks to everyone on here my garage is becoming a think of beauty. I went with the hypertherm myself. I liked that they are made here in the U.S.A. works like a champ. No regrets

[specter]

Good choice I think you'll be more than happy with its performance and the life of the consumables.

[Tony D]

My powermax 30 is getting a good workout here [IMG][/IMG]This was posted on another aera... but that is 1/2 smacked the slag off and was clea.....and it pierced and gouged it WOW and it's not rated for gouging..... but it digs good and the tips last .......and it goes down to 15 amps so it don't burn the paint on the roofing tin and does finer cuts on thinner stuff so that's my choice hands down it''s THE BEST as they are the leader in innovation woo hoo

[Tony D]

your posts were not there a min ago... wow I didn't see your choice and posted that how dummy

Well congrats to you and your powermax just gotta keep from cutting everything up LOL

[MX727]

Posted this in the other thread too for anyone else that is looking:

Current Airgas sale flyer:

Hypertherm Powermax 30 -------------$1139
Miller Spectrum 375 Extreme ---------$1348
Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 39 ----$1089
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[smawgmaw]

Weldersource.com ebay store---------Hypertherm Powermax 30-------$1009.
Weldersource.com ebay store---------Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 39-------$999
Weldersource.com ebay store----------Lincoln ProCut 25------$1360
Weldersource.com ebay store----------Miler 375 Xtreme--------$1245

[Combat Jump]

I just pulled the trigger on a Miller 375 Extreme from Indiana Oxygen. While I have 230V available, I like that it has the ability to use both 120V and 230V. This feature matches my Miller 211 (which I also bought from Indiana Oxygen).

So after using Red for 16 years, I have completely converted to Blue. I also got a good price, free shipping and no tax.

[jamlit]

Originally Posted by smawgmaw

Weldersource.com ebay store---------Hypertherm Powermax 30-------$1009.
Weldersource.com ebay store---------Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 39-------$999
Weldersource.com ebay store----------Lincoln ProCut 25------$1360
Weldersource.com ebay store----------Miler 375 Xtreme--------$1245

I have the TD cutmaster 38 and think it is one of the best plama's going. The cutmaster 39 is even better. With prices like these I think its a pretty clear choice.

[smawgmaw]

Originally Posted by Combat Jump

I just pulled the trigger on a Miller 375 Extreme from Indiana Oxygen. While I have 230V available, I like that it has the ability to use both 120V and 230V. This feature matches my Miller 211 (which I also bought from Indiana Oxygen).

So after using Red for 16 years, I have completely converted to Blue. I also got a good price, free shipping and no tax.

The TD Cutmaster 39 is also dual voltage (120/240) and about $246 cheaper including shipping than the Miller. Your money, your choice. Hope the blue paint was worth the extra green.

[tpierce]

Guys, I finally pulled the trigger on the Powermax 30. I was able to pick it up locally for $1025.00. They threw in shade 5 glasses, leather gloves, and a good air filter. I plan to fire it up over the weekend. Thanks for the input and comments.

[jamlit]

Congrats.

You can't go wrong with either a Hyperthem or thermodynamics plasma's. Both are the best one going.

Good luck with your purchase

[smawgmaw]

Ditto! Either one of the above machines, TD or Hypertherm, have good quality for the price. To me Lincoln and Miller are pricing themselves out of the market when compared to similiar capacity machines.

[Billy]

Originally Posted by smawgmaw

Ditto! Either one of the above machines, TD or Hypertherm, have good quality for the price. To me Lincoln and Miller are pricing themselves out of the market when compared to similiar capacity machines.

No not really, if you want quality you have to pay for it.

[Tony D]

I don't know about millers quality as I dont own one.....but Hypertherm did invent plasma cutting and are the leader in innovation ..so quality hmmmm hypertherm makes miller torches or did at least till the patents run out and can be copied now legally soooo that's my thoughts....

[smawgmaw]

Originally Posted by Billy

No not really, if you want quality you have to pay for it.

Compare the specs of the above machines. Then compare the prices of each. All are quality machines. But two specifically (TD and Hypertherm) seem to outshine the other two when comparing specs and dollars. I favor Lincoln when it comes to welding products, but I am no fool. The Lincoln unit mentioned above would be the last unit I would consider purchasing out of the group when it comes to value. The Miller unit would follow close on its heels. Like is often stated: "A fool and his/her money are soon parted". I still have mine and plan on keeping it. But, Billy, feel free to waste yours if you deem it neccessary.

[sidthss]

Ya can sit here and tell everybody not to buy the millers, but it seems like quite a few people still do, I purchased mine when miller had that special deal going this summer and it was between the hypertherm and miller, and because the 375 extreme had a case, air purifier, and the cutting guide, it ended up edging the hypertherm on price. Not that i have anything against hypertherm, but i have a hard time passing up a good deal on a good machine. Also smawgmaw, let me know when people stop buying lincolns and millers!

[smawgmaw]

Originally Posted by sidthss

Ya can sit here and tell everybody not to buy the millers, but it seems like quite a few people still do, I purchased mine when miller had that special deal going this summer and it was between the hypertherm and miller, and because the 375 extreme had a case, air purifier, and the cutting guide, it ended up edging the hypertherm on price. Not that i have anything against hypertherm, but i have a hard time passing up a good deal on a good machine. Also smawgmaw, let me know when people stop buying lincolns and millers!

Not telling anyone to not buy Lincoln and Millers. They can buy whatever they want and I can buy what I want. Their money and my money. Given the prices in the previous posts, I know what I would buy and not buy. One would not be Lincoln and the other would not be Miller. I am not talking quality here, I am talking value as to money output vs. specs. As to which I would buy, it would probably be the Hypertherm due to its physical size and portability even though it is just a bit more than the TD Cutmaster 39. If you read a little futher down in my posts at my signiture, you will see that I do own Lincoln products. I do own Miller products also. I apologize for not including the Miller Spoolmate 3035 and SGA100C control box I also own (not enough room due to size limitation). Please forgive me. And as for as letting you know when people stop buying Lincon or Millers, I dont have time for petty BS! Maybe you can waste your time doing so and let us all know when that happens.

[sidthss]

Obviously ya didnt understand it was a rhetorical question, because I dont ever see people not buying lincolns or millers, also I really dont care what you own, like you say, its my money....., but you also didnt understand when I told you that I paid less for my miller than for the PowerMax 30, set up the way I would like it. I never have considered any of the chinese junk and never will, never looked at any of the TD models, they may be good machines, but just not for me. To anyone else reading this thread, miller makes a good plasma cutter as well as hypertherm and others, but it all depends on what you want to spend, I would go with the miller or the hypertherm if I ever had to do it again.

[smawgmaw]

Originally Posted by sidthss

Obviously ya didnt understand it was a rhetorical question, because I dont ever see people not buying lincolns or millers, also I really dont care what you own, like you say, its my money....., but you also didnt understand when I told you that I paid less for my miller than for the PowerMax 30, set up the way I would like it. I never have considered any of the chinese junk and never will, never looked at any of the TD models, they may be good machines, but just not for me. To anyone else reading this thread, miller makes a good plasma cutter as well as hypertherm and others, but it all depends on what you want to spend, I would go with the miller or the hypertherm if I ever had to do it again.

You dont understand what you read. I did understand what you said about your purchase of the Miller Spectrum, good buy, your happy, thats all that matters. What you fail to understand is the original poster was considering two different units at todays current prices, not what someone else bought on sale. No where on this thread was it stated that Miller or Lincoln was not a good machine. They are both good machines, just not what I would consider better value to me when compared to the other two choices mentioned. And I dont believe anyone ever made a mention of Chinese machines either. Not until you just did.