6010?

[bp626indamix]

what should a 10 gauge vertical t-joint welded uphill with 1/8" 6010 look like?!

[Bozzza]

after chipping it off and cleaning it you should be able to get a pretty decent bead although it would be pretty hard for a begineer to pull it off because thats the thinest material you would start doing vert up with stick genraly speaking

[Mr.F]

Here is a Horizontal 3 bead pass 6010 Fillet weld (2F) done with an 1/8" electrode. My verticals look very similar with the puddles just stacked closer together.

[bp626indamix]

Originally Posted by Mr.F

Here is a Horizontal 3 bead pass 6010 Fillet weld (2F) done with an 1/8" electrode. My verticals look very similar with the puddles just stacked closer together.

clockwise?

[Roy Hodges]

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I learned to weld in the U.S.Navy Apprenticeship, at Mare Island shipyard (Vallejo,Calif.)
and they NEVER had us try to to weld 10 gauge plate .We started with 6010 -on 3/8" plate . that was thin enough .But, we was using 6010 5/32 rod ! (electrode, for you who want to argue) .

[bp626indamix]

heres mine. any help would be appreciated!

[Bozzza]

get comfy looks like you were shaking about and just keep it consistant your on the right track

[OPUS FERRO]

indamix - your beads are good enough to advance beyond running stringers beads, do this by welding different joints configurations, in different rotations. E6010 [5P] is in a class of its own. In all positions it will weld through rust, paint, grease, tar, and even through heavy zinc plating. With its fast-freeze characteristics you can paint a picture at arms length. My first welding job in 1973 was building 3200 gal. fuel tanks for 10 wheel fuel delivery trucks. My part was all of the inside welding; both heads and two baffles [heads with the flanges turned in a bit with a 16" cresent] amounting to 78 ft. of weld. The entire tank was 10ga. [1/8"] and welded with 5/32" rod. Except for the weepers all of the joints were lap joints and welded down-hand. 5/32" was used because 1/8" would not produce the desired weld size. On material this thin: you don't occilate, you turn up the heat, keep a very short arc and go really fassst. If I were welding a 10ga. tee-joint I would do it down-hand [verticle down] and for assured penetration, gap the joint with a .035" or .045" weld wire when tacking. Opus

[bp626indamix]

This is why I love this forum. Excellent advice and criticism. Thanks opus!

[Pressure_Welder]

Theirs nothing saying you have to whip a 6010, personally myself if i ever have to do fillets with 6010 i will weave and not whip whatsoever. Try running it as though your running a 7018, as for T-Joints, fast across the middle pause on the sides.

[DesertRider33]

I've never had success with simply dragging a 6010/11 along like a 7018. Whip and pause, or small circles works for me.

[bp626indamix]

Originally Posted by Pressure_Welder

Theirs nothing saying you have to whip a 6010, personally myself if i ever have to do fillets with 6010 i will weave and not whip whatsoever. Try running it as though your running a 7018, as for T-Joints, fast across the middle pause on the sides.

will try this.

[bp626indamix]

Originally Posted by DesertRider33

I've never had success with simply dragging a 6010/11 along like a 7018. Whip and pause, or small circles works for me.

and this.

[Mr.F]

Originally Posted by bp626indamix

clockwise?

I guess I don't get the question. clockwise what?

[Mr.F]

Originally Posted by Pressure_Welder

Theirs nothing saying you have to whip a 6010, personally myself if i ever have to do fillets with 6010 i will weave and not whip whatsoever. Try running it as though your running a 7018, as for T-Joints, fast across the middle pause on the sides.

Technically though weaves are only supposed to be performed in the veritcle up position with a stringer already laid down for pass no 1, then instead of a 2nd and 3rd stringer 1 weave saves time and ultimately reaches the same end.. I my self have fudged it a bit using a z-weave in different positions with mig or stick to plug up a gap on something that was not structural but generally I do not weave unless in the vertical up postition. Also there is no welding bible saying that manipulating a 6010 electrode is required, it is recomended as it allows the filler wire and weldment to mix and get into the nooks and cranny's especially when you are performing multi passes that may have some sharper edges on the toes of previous welds.

[Pressure_Welder]

by rights theirs no way you should be using 6010 out in the field for structural joints in the first place. but i understand this is school and that your practicing. Your going to get a much more asthetically pleasing weld if you work the puddle like a 7018. They made 6010 for its fast freeze chracteristics which is most desired for pipe. Ive burnt a sickening about of 6010 on pipe, of course i do prefer when i have to do jobs that require tig roots. Ill do one quickly and post a picture. Of both methods. As for "only" preforming a weave in the vertical position im not sure what code book your reading? I leave all my structural welding to my apprentices but its not uncommon at all to incorperate a weave in various structural joints. Mind you if you started doing like a 1" weave thats a little excessive.

[bp626indamix]

Originally Posted by Mr.F

I guess I don't get the question. clockwise what?

clockwise circles?

im aware of the fact that 6010 will not be used on structural joints-only decking. which everybody hates to do because its hard on your back. and yup, school teaches you things that might never be used. like dissecting a frog.

[Mr.F]

Originally Posted by bp626indamix

clockwise circles?:

No a whip forward and back. Everything is linear.

[bp626indamix]

well guys(maybe gals?) im taking my light gauge test this wednesday. 13 different joints!
hope i practiced enough.

[tanglediver]

Oh that 6010 joint. "I see!", said the blind bat. Get some sleep, no coffee tomorrow, break a leg!!

[bp626indamix]

passed my test! hell yeah!