#1  
Old 06-12-2010, 10:02 AM
bullgod6998 bullgod6998 is offline
WeldingWeb Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 23
HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Hi everyone just picked up a miller 330 a/bp machine.Never ran one before wonderd if anyone had any pros and cons on them and also any start up help .Have not fired it up yet was wondering what are the recomended settings for tig on this machine to start it up and see if it works properly . Have heard these machines are bullet proof minus the sore back from picking up this beast luckily came on a cart with casters.Came with 3 totes of acceseries tig torch, pedal ,3 stick leads,mig spool gun and millermatic box.Seems in good condition for its age I paid $500 for it any advice suggestions before I fire it up would be greatly appreciated.Plan on hooking it up to 100 amp service with a 60 amp breaker hard wired directly to a seperate breaker.The guy said the points needed to be adjusted.Plan on using it for strictly tig mainly mild steel.
Attached Images
  
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-12-2010, 11:00 AM
zapster's Avatar
zapster zapster is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In A Nice Comfy Chair
Posts: 13,830
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

I have the same machine and I LOVE it!
All I do is tig with it..
Set it up and start small but the range of what you can do with it is unreal..

Member 7A749 can fill you in on anything to do with these machines...

...zap!
__________________


I am not completely insane..
Some parts are missing

I have figured out that keeping everyone happy is nearly impossible but pissing people off is easy and fun.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-12-2010, 01:39 PM
turk's Avatar
turk turk is offline
WeldingWeb Craftsman
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 1,105
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

i have one too and love it. if you send me your email i can send you the technical repair manual for it.
__________________
Dynasty 200DX
Passport plus w/ spoolmate 100
victor 315c oxy/(act and prop)
Miller digital elite
milwaukee power tools
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-12-2010, 02:44 PM
bullgod6998 bullgod6998 is offline
WeldingWeb Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 23
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Thanks just got it home this morning.Was surprised how good of shape it seems to be in very little dirt dust on the inside wires cables contacts seem to be in very good shape thinking I did ok for $500.Not to sure what these models go for. Have not had it powered up yet (knocks on wood) the high freq and everything works.Does anyone have one of these or know how much power this machine will draw.Hoping my power bill wont go up to much plan on hooking it up to a 100 amp service and a 60 amp breaker.Probally running it between 50 to 75 amps mainly 12 to 16 guage mild steel.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-12-2010, 07:11 PM
duaneb55's Avatar
duaneb55 duaneb55 is offline
Master Welder
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange, TX
Posts: 8,410
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

At $500 for everything you got with it and the shape it's in you got a steal or a deal. A 60A breaker will likely get you in the 200A output range but much more than that and you be tripping it. Of course you'd have to be doing a whole bunch more than 12-16 gauge mild steel to get up to and above 200A.

If your load center has thru power terminals at the base of each breaker feeder leg just run your outlet from there (thru a disconnect box) and you'll have the full 100A required by the machine for 230v operation. Only problem is if you trip the breaker now you'll loose your lights too. Not sure if that set up is OK with NEC so maybe Sparky, MoonRise or someone else can clarify.

For your set up to do 12 to 16 gauge mild steel you're definately looking at the LOW range setting and Fine Current control probably down around 20-30 is my guess. DCEN polarity switch setting, 1/16" tungsten, #4-6cup, 12-15CFH on the 100% argon. That's where I'd start and go from there.


Oh, and congratulations on the 'new' machine.
__________________
MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
Syncrowave 180SD
Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
HF-251D-1
PakMaster 100XL
SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
Star Jet 21-110

Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-13-2010, 12:09 PM
millrat millrat is online now
WeldingWeb Tradesman
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Andover, MN
Posts: 304
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

WOW! What a clean unit and with all the accessories you did good.

Manuals available through Miller site.

60 amp breaker with the correct wiring , it'll be fine for what you describe.

You didn't mention it and I don't see a water cooler. Did you get one of those also? If it's an air cooled torch the duty cycle will be what the torch can handle. Either way, you have a machine that will serve you well.

The biggest thing at this point is to pay attention to the bar on the left side under the HF panel. Connection for "Inert" and "Metallic". It DOES make a difference. Inert = TIG, metallic = Stick. Double check the gas hose to make sure it's on the gas valve and not the water valve.

Tig on M/S. Set the HF to start not continous. That will give you nice arc initiation. In the off position it's a scratch start.

millrat
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-13-2010, 12:15 PM
zapster's Avatar
zapster zapster is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In A Nice Comfy Chair
Posts: 13,830
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Quote:
Originally Posted by millrat View Post
Double check the gas hose to make sure it's on the gas valve and not the water valve.
millrat
That is impossible to screw up..
One has left hand threads..The other right hand threads..

...zap!
__________________


I am not completely insane..
Some parts are missing

I have figured out that keeping everyone happy is nearly impossible but pissing people off is easy and fun.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-13-2010, 12:58 PM
Rbeckett's Avatar
Rbeckett Rbeckett is offline
WeldingWeb Foreman
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Beautifull Downtown Bronson,Fla
Posts: 774
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Damn you Zap!!!! $500.00 is a STEAL. Wish I was where you were, woulda dropped the cash fast. Never used one, but I read the specs and they are pretty impressive. If it works properly and with the extras I think you did great on the $$$'s. Good luck with the new tool!!!!!
__________________
I'm spending my Kids inheritance, I dont like him that much anyway!!!!!!
Enuff tools to do the job, enough sense to use em.
Anybody got a spare set of kidneys? Trade?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-13-2010, 01:04 PM
zapster's Avatar
zapster zapster is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In A Nice Comfy Chair
Posts: 13,830
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

I paid 600 for mine...
Got it last October..


The Original Poster paid 500..

Either and or.....Good Deals!!!

The machine in the pic looks just like the one member 7A749 had for sale..
And he is in Michigan also.....

...zap!
__________________


I am not completely insane..
Some parts are missing

I have figured out that keeping everyone happy is nearly impossible but pissing people off is easy and fun.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-13-2010, 02:08 PM
Ken Dennis's Avatar
Ken Dennis Ken Dennis is offline
WeldingWeb Craftsman
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Huntington, In
Posts: 1,268
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Quote:
Originally Posted by zapster View Post
I paid 600 for mine...
Got it last October..


The Original Poster paid 500..

Either and or.....Good Deals!!!

The machine in the pic looks just like the one member 7A749 had for sale..
And he is in Michigan also.....

...zap!
Not any longer!
That one is sitting in my shop now!
__________________
#1. If you don't like what I wrote, or if it offends you, then don't read it!
#2. I am living life the way I see fit, if you don't like the way I'M living, tough sh**!
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 06-13-2010, 02:10 PM
CEP's Avatar
CEP CEP is offline
WeldingWeb Artisan
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
Posts: 1,761
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

I just decommissioned mine, placed it in the very back of the barn. I see them go as low as $200.00 sometimes. Couldn't part with it for that!

They are also a very fine SMAW machine, I'd say even better than my Dynasty 300. I had mine on a 95-amp breaker.

When your capacitors for the high freq go out there is a guy on ebay who sells them really cheap. Miller wants over $100.00 each.
__________________
Dynasty 300.
V350-Pro w/pulse
LF-72
SG Spool gun
LN-25.
PowerArc 200.
5 SA-200s.
1800 Ellis saw
Powermax 1250, CNC table.
PROFAX Welding Positioner.
JD2 model 3

Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 06-13-2010, 04:13 PM
millrat millrat is online now
WeldingWeb Tradesman
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Andover, MN
Posts: 304
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Quote:
That is impossible to screw up..
One has left hand threads..The other right hand threads..

...zap!
OMG How could I forget that. Sorry
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-13-2010, 04:18 PM
millrat millrat is online now
WeldingWeb Tradesman
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Andover, MN
Posts: 304
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Quote:
When your capacitors for the high freq go out there is a guy on ebay who sells them really cheap. Miller wants over $100.00 each.
Who is the seller or keyword search? Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-13-2010, 07:39 PM
CEP's Avatar
CEP CEP is offline
WeldingWeb Artisan
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Figuring the picking points of jelly donuts.
Posts: 1,761
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Oh gezzs, it's been about five years now. I remember he was a Canadian. If you used the keyword “capacitor”, that would probably be about two weeks worth of reading.

Seems as I remember reading something about him selling capacitors here recently on Hobart, or was it Miller? Sorry for not being any more help!

Oh I do remember reading on one of these sites where people said a good electronics supply house will have them also.
__________________
Dynasty 300.
V350-Pro w/pulse
LF-72
SG Spool gun
LN-25.
PowerArc 200.
5 SA-200s.
1800 Ellis saw
Powermax 1250, CNC table.
PROFAX Welding Positioner.
JD2 model 3

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-13-2010, 09:17 PM
turk's Avatar
turk turk is offline
WeldingWeb Craftsman
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 1,105
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

i got mine for 150 with spoolgun, and water cooled torch.
__________________
Dynasty 200DX
Passport plus w/ spoolmate 100
victor 315c oxy/(act and prop)
Miller digital elite
milwaukee power tools
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-14-2010, 08:43 AM
bullgod6998 bullgod6998 is offline
WeldingWeb Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 23
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Thanks for the replies..........Picked it up from a guy who took it as payment on some money he was owed.He had it in his garage never used it was to big for what he wanted to do.Have the electrician coming over this evening to wire her up.Didnt come with a cooler just a torch 2 stick leads a 25 and a 50 footer quick disconectand a millermatic box with spoolgun.Just gonna run it aircooled picked up a new weldcraft wp-9 torch over the weekend and a new ground clamp.took of the panels and blew her out yesterday very little dust inside wires all look like new.The bar out of the conector will be in the inert posistion correct?if I have it pushed down into the conectors it will be in metallic correct?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-14-2010, 06:48 PM
7A749's Avatar
7A749 7A749 is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Home Of Oldsmobile Lansing, MI.
Posts: 5,432
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Quote:
Originally Posted by bullgod6998 View Post
Thanks for the replies..........Picked it up from a guy who took it as payment on some money he was owed.He had it in his garage never used it was to big for what he wanted to do.Have the electrician coming over this evening to wire her up.Didnt come with a cooler just a torch 2 stick leads a 25 and a 50 footer quick disconectand a millermatic box with spoolgun.Just gonna run it aircooled picked up a new weldcraft wp-9 torch over the weekend and a new ground clamp.took of the panels and blew her out yesterday very little dust inside wires all look like new.The bar out of the conector will be in the inert posistion correct?if I have it pushed down into the conectors it will be in metallic correct?
That's a nice machine.

Alas, as was mentioned, I was not the previous owner.

I bet it has a selenium rectifier inside it. The Gold Star sticker was an indication of that.

That's quite a clean machine. You got yourself a good deal.

The spoolgun was gravy on top.

Yeah, the throw switch stays in the out position to bring in the balance resistor for TIG. Metallic for stick.

Have fun with it.
__________________
Specializing In The Sale & Restoration Of
Miller 50 Series Wire Feeders
Miller Maxtron 450 Inverters
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-16-2010, 07:57 PM
bullgod6998 bullgod6998 is offline
WeldingWeb Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 23
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

AHHHHHH..............SHE RUNS LIKE A CADILLAC!!!

Finally got her hooked up today and fired on the power and layed a bead .Gonna take a little gettin used to till I fined her sweet spots.But breathes a sigh of relief everything works !!!!Best $500 I ever spent.
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-16-2010, 08:04 PM
duaneb55's Avatar
duaneb55 duaneb55 is offline
Master Welder
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Orange, TX
Posts: 8,410
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Sweet!!!

What'd you wind up doing for your power hook-up?
__________________
MM200 w/Spoolmatic 1
Syncrowave 180SD
Bobcat 225G Plus - LP/NG
MUTT Suitcase Wirefeeder
WC-1S/Spoolmatic 1
HF-251D-1
PakMaster 100XL
SA-200 Blackface Code# 8638
Star Jet 21-110

Two term limit - one in office, one in jail.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-16-2010, 08:52 PM
zapster's Avatar
zapster zapster is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In A Nice Comfy Chair
Posts: 13,830
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Quote:
Originally Posted by bullgod6998 View Post
AHHHHHH..............SHE RUNS LIKE A CADILLAC!!!

Finally got her hooked up today and fired on the power and layed a bead .Gonna take a little gettin used to till I fined her sweet spots.But breathes a sigh of relief everything works !!!!Best $500 I ever spent.
These things have many sweet spots...
Wait until you do Aluminum...


...zap!
__________________


I am not completely insane..
Some parts are missing

I have figured out that keeping everyone happy is nearly impossible but pissing people off is easy and fun.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 06-16-2010, 09:11 PM
yorkiepap's Avatar
yorkiepap yorkiepap is offline
Moderator
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: SW PA
Posts: 1,160
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Hey bullgod,
As the others have commented, that is a really clean unit..... you did good. With all the accessories you got, a real bargain at the price.

Denny
__________________
Complete Welding/Machine/Fab. Shop
Mobile Unit
Finally retired

*Moderator*

"A man's word is his honor...without honor there is nothing."
"Words are like bullets.... Once they leave your muzzle, you cannot get them back."
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 06-17-2010, 09:33 PM
FusionKing FusionKing is offline
WeldingWeb Tradesman
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Lake Of The Ozarks MO
Posts: 231
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Those are super machines. I had the exact same in an Airco, I gave a grand for it and sold it to one of my old bosses for $900....not bad after many years of service.
They weld aluminum very nice,esp. if you rig up a remote button to the contactor. Then you can bump weld like an old pro.
__________________
Miller Dynasty 700
Miller 350P
Bobcat 225 NT
Dynasty 200 DX
30-A spoolgun
Spectrum 300

Enuff power and hand tools to fix or create one of anything but mass produce nothing!!!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 06-22-2010, 12:57 PM
bullgod6998 bullgod6998 is offline
WeldingWeb Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 23
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Works fine .Still miss my Syncro 300 though!!!!!!Nothing against the 330 .
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-24-2010, 10:58 PM
bullgod6998 bullgod6998 is offline
WeldingWeb Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 23
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

Anyone of you guys with a 330 notice a big increase in youre electric bill
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-24-2010, 11:23 PM
turk's Avatar
turk turk is offline
WeldingWeb Craftsman
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Palmer, Alaska
Posts: 1,105
Re: HELP... miller 330 a/bp

electric is included in my rent, so no.
__________________
Dynasty 200DX
Passport plus w/ spoolmate 100
victor 315c oxy/(act and prop)
Miller digital elite
milwaukee power tools
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
haelp miller 330 a/bp

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Penton Media, Inc. All rights reserved.