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Old 04-25-2006, 04:51 PM
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I've Kept My Mouth Shut About This So Far...

i'll post pics soon because i have to resize them all

but OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!

I just got the letter...and the answer i was looking for..

last october i brought my 9' fisher minute mount plow to where i work just to leave it there 'cause i really have no room here...

but it was vulnerable to getting swiped..
(heck it only takes me 2 min or so to put it on the truck) and it wont take anyone with a ford any longer to steal it if they know what there doing...
and to replace it is 4800$ my cost (dad works at a fisher plow dealer)


well i came up with a "device" that enables you to "lock" the mounting pins in the same position as though its on the truck


therefore now you cant pull the pin out to line up the mounting holes....

its small
fits in the glove box when not needed
your lock your key...

well we made the prototypes
made the blueprints...
made a appointment with the patten lawers 2 months ago...
1200$ later...

its offical..WE'RE PAT PENDING!!!!

and the beauty of it is that its not just for fisher plows..we have the patten(pending) for any kind of pin locking device for ANY plow set up..
end of story

suck part is that we have to send all the welding out because we dont have a tig set up where i am now...

but in the long run we're just gonna try to "sell" the patten to fisher or?

either and or i own the patten rights to any lock device for any plow

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Old 04-25-2006, 05:07 PM
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Hey Zap, ............. Good goin' and best of luck. Next stop, the cover of Fortune 500 magazine ??????? ............
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Old 04-25-2006, 05:58 PM
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hey zap --JOB WELL DONE-- wow --now the gov grant to fund a new shop woohoo yep fortune 500 -- im sure you can find a tig welder some where -- again welldone an many more ideas
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Old 04-25-2006, 06:08 PM
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Old 04-25-2006, 08:56 PM
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Congrats and good luck,maybee I'll have to buy one I have an 8'boss
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Old 04-25-2006, 09:29 PM
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Old 04-25-2006, 10:11 PM
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thanks guys

i'll post pics soon...i need mrs zap to do the RESIZING for me

i tried it a couple of times

everything vanished...or got REAL BIG ....
i'm a welder/machinist....not a computer guru
can we do anything about size restrictions here?
i'm on a couple of other sites where you can post pics no problem...
and they have the pics of my idea already


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Old 04-25-2006, 10:20 PM
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and the beauty of it is that its not just for fisher plows..we have the patten(pending) for any kind of pin locking device for ANY plow set up..
end of story
That's pretty neet that you were able to do it. Not often you can come up with something new and unique. Great work.

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Old 04-25-2006, 10:23 PM
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Great work Zap!!!

Tell Mrs. Zap that we realy want to see those pics. The ones of the new device.

Selling the production rights is one idea, but have you considered going into production yourself? Yeah the start up costs hurt but you end up with even more to sell. Don't get me wrong I understand selling the patten too.

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Old 04-25-2006, 10:25 PM
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but in the long run we're just gonna try to "sell" the patten to fisher or?
I guess there are pluses and minuses to every option. Never know till it plays out then hindsight reveals it all very clearly.

I guess you can sell the patent or sell the patent 'rights'. If you sell the rights you can sell them 'exclusive' (to one only) or 'non-exclusive'.

I sure dunno. I still be poe.
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Old 04-25-2006, 10:45 PM
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another thing about this deal...

if i had to make them myself takes about no time to do the parts to make 1000

where i work we'd just have the no brainers cut and sand and drill

these are really that simple...

its the welding part i'm not happy about

but in all reality i'd just like to sell the idea...

mrs zap will help (if she can and i know she can) resize the pics tomorrow..promise

or else


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Old 04-26-2006, 06:38 AM
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Congrats Zap! Now you can collect royalties from both your inventions AND your music.
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:19 AM
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Job well done,Zapster. I hope it goes real well no matter which way you go with it.
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:26 AM
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I've got a patent pending also. I expect to get the patent awarded sometime four or five years from now. They're that far behind at the US Patent and Trademark Office.

Patents are interesting as a concept. I almost didn't go the patent route and make my idea public domain because of the hassle of getting my last one.

Like zap I'm producing my own right now and hoping that when the patent is issued some big company will want it more than I do. The thought of mail box money sounds thrilling.

The biggest lesson I've learned about patents is all they are is the license to litigate. By that I mean having your idea patented gives you the right to sue anyone that uses it without your permission. You're the only one that can sue to protect your patent and you're the only one that can enforce your patent rights through litigation.

Let's say a company likes my idea. But they don't want to pay me for the rights to produce it. Then it becomes like poker. I threaten to sue. Of course I have to pay for my attorney fees myself. If they're a big company and I don't have the money to pay for the legal help I need then they can get away with producing to their heart and wallet's content.

They can also contest my patent and if it's weak, I lose it.
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Old 04-26-2006, 08:10 AM
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Consider this option.. Sell the rights to Fisher with the agreement that you have sole manufacturing rights for the first 3 years. That way you don't have to worry about marketing or the success of the product in the market place. If patent is infringed upon then it is fisher that litigates. You have three years of work at some level with cash to upgradee your shop to TIG process or whatever else you might need.


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Old 04-26-2006, 12:24 PM
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well now now..
i can check in here now while i'm at work..
we finally have the shop in the 21'st century!!

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Consider this option.. Sell the rights to Fisher with the agreement that you have sole manufacturing rights for the first 3 years. That way you don't have to worry about marketing or the success of the product in the market place. If patent is infringed upon then it is fisher that litigates. You have three years of work at some level with cash to upgradee your shop to TIG process or whatever else you might need.


Steven

we do have a tig machine here...
its a miller...
but we need a footpedal...
and its not hooked up to anything yet...
and getting a new one is gonna take some "trying"
but if we're gonna make'em here I'D just assume to do all the welding myself

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Post pics of the device, I'm dying of anxiety after only 1 day.
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This thread shows the true meaning of censorship.

Parts of thread have been deleted even though they did not contain any vulgarity or attacks on any individuals. They were deleted becuase one persons opinion was not as valuable as another persons opinion that happended to be friends with the moderator.

I joined the Marines during Vietnam to fight for our country and our way of life which includes being able to voice my opinion without being censored.

I guess we don't live in the US anymore and I have no further use for this site.

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I agree, half this thread seems to be missing. I'd kinda like to hear an explanation as to why. Moderators?
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As of this moment, I'm not sure what happened to this thread. From what I've read on this thread, none of the posts seemed to be out of line. I'm going to look into the matter to see why the posts were deleted. I'll keep you posted.

Please don't let this discourage you from posting on this site. The purpose of WeldingWeb is to provide a place for members to share opinons and information, regardless of who they are and what their opinions may be.
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Post pics of the device, I'm dying of anxiety after only 1 day.
the pics of the device is under the thread pics!pics!pics!
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This thread shows the true meaning of censorship.

Parts of thread have been deleted even though they did not contain any vulgarity or attacks on any individuals. They were deleted becuase one persons opinion was not as valuable as another persons opinion that happended to be friends with the moderator.

I joined the Marines during Vietnam to fight for our country and our way of life which includes being able to voice my opinion without being censored.

I guess we don't live in the US anymore and I have no further use for this site.

Neil

if any of this thread was deleted...its news to me....
all seems in order...

the "snipping" as to call it was under the pics! pics! pics ! thread....

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are the missing posts here? Please advise Neil
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