lodge and shipley lathe

[idacal]

I just picked up this lathe on a trade. and Im trying to figure what year and what it is it says 16" and you can see it has a long bed Im wondering where the serial numbers or model numbers are ay help would be great I can also get some close ups thanks

[Andrew_D]

Looks like there's lots of room at the end of the bed to set your coffee cup down!

Have you tried Practical Machinist or Home Shop Machinist? The folks there should be able to point you in the right direction.

Some thoughts...are the legs original? I see supports from the bed into the chip pan in three spots, but only 2 sets of legs instead of 3.

Andrew

P.S. Found the following on lathes.co.uk...http://www.lathes.co.uk/lodgeshipley/

[Thiel-Metal-Fab]

looks like the middle is bowing .. bet that takes aome time to get level

[jackalope]

Idacal,

There is a fella over on the Practicalmachinist.com site named JohnOder. If you post the pic in the antique machinery section, he will pretty much pinpoint your machine's age.

Looks like a nice old beast. Plenty of distance bewtween centers.

Grant

[dunemetal]

Originally Posted by jackalope

Idacal,

There is a fella over on the Practicalmachinist.com site named JohnOder. If you post the pic in the antique machinery section, he will pretty much pinpoint your machine's age.

Looks like a nice old beast. Plenty of distance bewtween centers.

Grant

$20 bill says John has the catalog from L&S from the year it came out. He is an amazing guy and a tremendous resource.

[idacal]

thanks guys Im heading over to that site. The bow in the bed is an optical illusion the strap in the middle is lose, strictly for dot, and I do have the third leg some body put rollers under this thing to move it around so I have to shim the the middle leg.

[jackalope]

Originally Posted by dunemetal

$20 bill says John has the catalog from L&S from the year it came out. He is an amazing guy and a tremendous resource.

I will NOT take you up on that bet! You are sure to lose if ya do!

He will have the answers for you.

OT, I was making some very small gears to fit an existing assembly with fixed centers. I needed to make a 4:1 reduction while still utilizing the fixed centers. With all the calculations we had done, we could not peg the right numbers. John came back with the calculations and gear cutter, pitch, in shot order. Cut the 3/4" gears and they worked perfectly!

This guy is a dang genius!!!

[sailwelder]

try lathes.co.uk, they have information on lodge&shipley lathes as well.

[dunemetal]

Originally Posted by jackalope

I will NOT take you up on that bet! You are sure to lose if ya do!

He will have the answers for you.

OT, I was making some very small gears to fit an existing assembly with fixed centers. I needed to make a 4:1 reduction while still utilizing the fixed centers. With all the calculations we had done, we could not peg the right numbers. John came back with the calculations and gear cutter, pitch, in shot order. Cut the 3/4" gears and they worked perfectly!

This guy is a dang genius!!!

^^^ right on and a classy guy to boot, never will you see him drug down in some of the insane exchanges that go on over there at times. Still, a good site in spite of a select few!

[idacal]

He has gone out of his way to help me already. Tried doing a little turning today my chips are coming off blue though. The gearing is taking me a while to figure out. its a lot of fun though.

[jackalope]

Originally Posted by idacal

Tried doing a little turning today my chips are coming off blue though.

Running too hot. Not a problem if you are using carbide though. Not knowing the exact rpm makes deterimining your feed rate bit difficult.

Just slow it down until you are getting a nice clean chip(s). Make sure the cutting edge of the tool is sharp.

Have fun with it and be careful!

Never try changing the chuck with power on. There is a thread over on offroadfabnet.com somewhere that shows the remains of a man that was tore in half in a machine smaller than yours. Literally tore in half and everything from above the waist was splattered throughout the lathe bed and backsplash.

Not saying you don't know but can't hurt to mention it.

[idacal]

I saw that one, about made me loose my lunch, instant hamburger. I am trying to get the feed rates slower. Im using the slowest feed and the star nut and it still seems to feed incredibly fast its supposed to be 128 turns per inch. but the chips sure seem thick I dont know what you would ever use the faster rates for besides threading. The issue is Im not getting a smooth finish. tomorrow is another day and I will mess around some more with it.

[dunemetal]

What are you using HSS or carbide? A lot of brazed carbide tools have negative/neutral rake although I'd think your lathe has the *** to handle them. I look for "tan" chips as I'm not in production. I love HSS, you can't beat the cost.

[idacal]

I was trying out both, but the tool post holders hold the bits at such an angle that the carbides dont contact at the top edge unless the cutter is set way below centerline on the piece thats being cut.

[jackalope]

Assuming you have a sharp cutting edge AND your cutting edge is centerline (not above or below), your feed and speed are incorrect. Make sure your lead screw is disengaged so as not to be "threading" your piece. What size piece of material are you trying to cut (diameter) and what is the material?

For carbide, a blue chip is okay as long as it is not dark blue. Your chip should be carrying away the heat from the work piece. Your sutting tool should not be hot at all. Rather, cool to the touch.

Do you have any pictures of your tooling the way it is currently set up?

Grant

[idacal]

Here is the tooling I have right now and how I have it set up. I dont know what kind a steel it is its an ancient cable tool drilling stem but the finest cuts this lathe can make according to the brass plates is 128 turns per inch thats like .008 a rotation thats using the star nut of course. just have to feed the gentle stuff by hand I guess