new welding shop

[ed mac]

24x36x10h block 140 mph wind code
just got the permits and hope to start next week

[Lanse]

Congrads man!!

[DemonSpeeder]

That's not going to be big enough...... just kidding, Congrats

[BlauSchuh]

cant tell the dimensions....

[DSW]

Originally Posted by BlauSchuh

cant tell the dimensions....

Originally Posted by ed mac

24x36x10h block 140 mph wind code
just got the permits and hope to start next week

......

[BlauSchuh]

Originally Posted by DSW

......

reading comprehension isn't strong point tonight

[OPUS FERRO]

ed mac - 10 ft. door and a 12 ft. ceiling minimum. Opus

[denrep]

Ed mac,
Do you need the hip roof?
Why drain roof water in front of the doors that you're likely to be working around?

Good Luck

[akpolaris]

Much nicer to have an extended eave to work underneath, especially is site drainage is in question

Originally Posted by denrep

Ed mac,
Do you need the hip roof?
Why drain roof water in front of the doors that you're likely to be working around?

Good Luck

[WeldingMachine]

Congrats Ed

[speedfreak87]

Nice, when can I move in?

[ToolBoxTavern]

Congrats. Dont forget the pics.

Cant wait till I build mine. I would have to have one a minimum of about 20 feet by 40 feet with 14 foot doors on each side so I could drive my tractor trailer thru it and gutters to collect rain water for our garden and / or animals. Just thinking out loud. For every 1,000 square feet of roof 1 inch of rain makes 600 gallons of water.

Oh yea, and a bathroom with a sink, toilet, and a standup shower.

One more thing and this is a must the fridge for the beer.

[AndyA]

Originally Posted by DemonSpeeder

That's not going to be big enough...... just kidding, Congrats

Originally Posted by BlauSchuh

cant tell the dimensions....

It doesn't matter. Once it's built, it's never big enough.

I asked my wife "Can I have a shop like that?" while we were driving by the Rubbermaid plant that's around 1000'x1000' under one roof. She just looked at me.

[g-man]

If you make it a gable roof you could leave it vaulted and have plenty of height, and would let you put a larger door. save some cash too.

[nachche]

congrats and good luck!
do you have a plan for the inside?( where you gonna put everything...)

[scorpiontm]

One thing i would put into the plan is a good sized roof exhaust fan and a good filter box for the welding fumes! You can never have to much ventilation in a welding shop!

[Bob the Welder]

Quite a few comments and questions regarding the choice of a hip roof over a gable roof. You have to remember that ed mac lives (I believe) in Florida and a hip roof is just about the best design for withstanding high (hurricane force) winds. Wouldn't be surprised if many zoning laws require them, or an equally wind resistant design, in all new construction. Should be real nice when finished.

[ThorsHammer]

it's never big enough.

"thats what she said"

sorry couldn't help myself.

Kegorator and brewing station will be a requirement for my next shop. but I'll probably be required to get a different wife before I would be allowed a new/larger shop.

just remember PPPPPP (Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance). plan you shop layout before you put anything in. that way you know where you need everything, and you can figure out the best arrangement to allow you easy access to everthing. Don't forget to plan for the future, and what you plan on getting but don't have the funds at the moment save you headaches down the road.

[Country Metals]

I agree with at least 10' a ceiling. i am currently working in a 21x32 garage that has a sloped roof coming off of a 32x48 barn. The tapered roof is nice and when you have a 3' table and building something 4' tall, you have 7' and you need room for lights and what not.

[g-man]

Originally Posted by ThorsHammer

"thats what she said"

sorry couldn't help myself.

Kegorator and brewing station will be a requirement for my next shop. but I'll probably be required to get a different wife before I would be allowed a new/larger shop.

just remember PPPPPP (Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance). plan you shop layout before you put anything in. that way you know where you need everything, and you can figure out the best arrangement to allow you easy access to everthing. Don't forget to plan for the future, and what you plan on getting but don't have the funds at the moment save you headaches down the road.

that would be Prior Proper Planing PPPPPPP 7 P's

[kolot]

I also cast 1 vote for a gable roof, easier to frame, or just use trusses. puts water away from your door and increases your headroom and or loft storage. Bottom line is it is your shop, you should do with it as you please and no matter what roof it should be a great work space. Let's see some pictures when it's done. Luck.

[Fegenbush]

I can't seem to find something on the drawing. Is it not required in your jurisdiction?

[forhire]

Originally Posted by Fegenbush

I can't seem to find something on the drawing. Is it not required in your jurisdiction?

I can't speak for FL or KY. But here in WA we can still do stuff provided it is under a certain size and within the prescriptive requirements of the code.

When are plans required to be stamped by an architect or engineer?
• The following plans would be required to be stamped by a Washington State registered engineer architect:
o Plans for a new building greater than 4000 square feet
o Plans for the alteration of or addition to a building greater than 4000 square feet
o Plans for an addition that will bring the total building area over 4000 square feet
o Plans for a residential building that contains more than 4 dwelling units
• Tenant improvements are not required to be stamped as long as the occupancy classification is not changing
• All structural design (or engineering) regardless of the size of the building is required to be stamped, unless it falls within the prescriptive requirements of the code.

[ThorsHammer]

Wa also tries to rape you on the permit costs. thus the biggest reason my shop is so small. Original plan was to go 24'x16' but the permit alone would have been over a grand.

[Fegenbush]

forhire and ThorsHammer:

WA also has a supplemental exam (state specific) required for a structural engineering license. Here's the breakdown of what is required:

-Four year degree from an ABET accredited school
-Pass 8 hour FE/EIT exam
-Work a minimum of 4 years under a licensed PE/SE
-Apply to take SE exam (requires multiple PE/SE references)
-Pass 16 hour SE exam
-Pass 8 hour WA state specific exam

Then you get the privilege of paying the state annually for a license and then there's the E&O insurance. It's kind of a pain, but it is worth it to be able to perform structural design work.