Did anyone here weld this?

[DanD78]

I hope no one on this site made this repair. Sense I have no idea who made this repair I see no harm in putting it up for comment. This repair was on a used John Deere chisel plow purchased by a neighbor. He asked if I could fix the cracks and I could not believe my eyes when I saw this. No joint prep was done because the cracks were right under the welds I ground off. No slag removed between passes, Cold welds.

I ground off this mess and ground out the cracks so I would get 100% penetration. I used 1/8", 6010 5P+ for the root then filled out with 3/32", 7018 grinding out between each pass. Not my best work but it will hold.

If there is a Stickey for weld hall of shame this one needs to be added.

Dan

[AndyA]

I can't really identify a "pass" or how many were made.
There must have been some chickens nesting in his barn.

[Rick V]

Always did wonder where old bubble gum went...

[Bob]

If you do much farm equipment repair you will see this stuff a lot, and I mean a lot. On one project, after cutting off all the pieces of metal some one used for gussets and fish plates and then just welding it out right, the farmer commented that my weld probably wouldn't hold as I didn't put all the crap pieces back like the other guy had. I always tell them if it breaks I will repair it for nothing. I've never had to do it even once.

[soutthpaw]

Agree with Bob that is pretty common for the farm and ranch repairs...

[bgroves]

Ya that looks like a lot of the repairs that go on around here. A bunch of these farmers do there own repairs and they tend to not hold up very long. I had to repair a plow last week for an older man, he hit a fence and tore it up pretty good. I managed to get it all put back together.

[mla2ofus]

A lot of farmers think if they add enough extra pieces to a repair job it will be stronger than the original. When I worked for a farm in Idaho I kept a scarfing tip in the service truck to cut all the excess crap off and start over.
Mike

[1_black_z28]

Looks like the welds I find all over the place at work.

There must be a dozen of these clowns at work, they ALL think they can weld...and ALL of their welds look like that!

They all have bigass trucks and think "biggest truck = best welding skills"

[macvance]

I'm still brushing up my skills - it's been years - but one of my first stops when I feel up to it is the dairy where we buy our milk. Lots of welds like that all around the place.

[GBM]

Yall should not DISS that welding... that guy was very brave to keep welding right through that earthquake.....

[papaharley03]

Originally Posted by GBM

Yall should not DISS that welding... that guy was very brave to keep welding right through that earthquake.....

Earthquake? Naw, I'm guessing it was at least an EF-4 tornado bearing down on him while he welded that.

I have some things around my house that look like that. They're called walls, and it's called knockdown texture.

[Groo]

give it enough chances to penetrate into the root material, and one of them is bound to stick

[Weldordie]

Aw, come on guys, stop making snide comments about the handicapped. Obviously, whoever did the first repair was blind. There are just some things the blind can't do, and welding is one of 'em.

[turk]

where are the pics of the repaired parts?

[DSW]

Originally Posted by Weldordie

Aw, come on guys, stop making snide comments about the handicapped. Obviously, whoever did the first repair was blind. There are just some things the blind can't do, and welding is one of 'em.

Are you sure? Just think they wouldn't need a hood to protect their eyes from the arc... I think he was just writing the instructions on the machine in braile.

[Weldordie]

Originally Posted by DSW

Are you sure? Just think they wouldn't need a hood to protect their eyes from the arc... I think he was just writing the instructions on the machine in braile.

[ExpatWelder]

Heck, that looks like some of my better work!

[DSW]

Originally Posted by ExpatWelder

Heck, that looks like some of my better work!

Can't be. The machine's too small. It probably weighs less that the weld material you put in some of those buckets.

[Tubal-Cain]

OMG. When my dad taught me to weld he said one of the most important things to help get a good weld was to get in a comfortable position before you start. That being said this guy got so comfortable before he started welding that he might have gone comatose once he began.

[zapster]

This reminds me of a show on "Food Network"..

"In front of you is rusted broken farm equipment..
Small hand grinder with a worn out disc..
Crappy metal for repairs..
Dozens of welding rods..
An underpowered machine"

"You have 30 mins to complete the repair and the clock starts now"




Unfortunately you have been CHOPPED!

...zap!

[ThorsHammer]

ok, now that you guys are done belittling my tig skills, let me show you how good I am with JB weld.

[Scott Young]

When an older man brings me his equipment to weld on I quit commenting on the welds. Many of them as ugly as they were and are, held and did the job (miracle as it may be). I have also know many a man to blame his own globbing and dobbing on a "friend" or "another welder". I laugh and say something about it being ugly, but it held while it lasted. and then laugh a little with him. I then fix the problem and then prod him not to tell who welded new repairs as ugly as they are (they usually aren't ugly and always more pretty than the original). I tell him if they break, call me and the repair is on me; unless it breaks from destructive abuse. I haven't had a call back. When I didn't High Horse and blast the other guy's welding to shreds, I found I got more business. Some guys are embarrassed they don't know how to weld and they do the best they could do. They add enough metal to get the job done and only the cows will see it most of the time. When I finally breaks and the guy doesn't have time or is frustrated with it he then call on me or one of you.

I get a lot of calls for welding fixes from those old men now before they glob it all up. just foo for thought.

oh yeah that original job was ugly!! good repair.

[ThorsHammer]

good "bedside manner" is always helpful in a business. not matter what you do. If you offend the customer, they aren't going to come back, no matter how good of a job you do. we jest a lot in our anonimity online. But when you're face to face with someone who knows something wasn't done right and is more than likely imbarased by either the work they did, or the work they had someone else do. Than it's never a good idea to rub it in their face.

I've found that most people in a trade are not the typical lay down and take in personalities. so they like to toot their own horn. And typically that can get out of hand, especially when it's with a customer instead of a coworker.

Just remember, someone who has a good experience at a business might come back, and might tell 1 or 2 people about it. But someone who has a bad experience will tell everyone they know, who will in turn tell everyone they know.

[Bistineau]

Originally Posted by turk

where are the pics of the repaired parts?

The picture of the part with the paint removed is the repair. The places covered in paint is the before shots. If the original "Repairer" had put enough coats of paint on it after he finished, it never would have cracked again

[turk]

I see now, I thought that was a partially ground out pic. nice looking repair.