comparsion Lincoln to Miller engine driven welders

[crenshawjm]

i am wondering what would be the difference if any between the Lincoln GXT compared to the Miller Bobcat 250 ? any expereince ? Ideas ? hurry before the wife changes her mind.....

[DDA52]

One is blue and the other is red. Stick them behind a curtain and weld with either and you would be hard pressed to tell which is which. The only real difference that jumps out at me is the GXT is remote capable. Other than that, they look like red apples vs. blue apples...still apples, though. The Ranger 250 is a little more different than the Bobus 250..it has the variable dig feature. I do notice the GXT is quite a bit heavier than the Ranger 250 and the Bobus.

Bottom line.....you won't go wrong with either. I am partial to blue after the crap Linc put me through a long time ago....yes I AM holding a grudge. That is why I just bought a new BLUE Trailblazer.

Just get one before she changes her mind.

[littlefuzz]

I haven't used a bobcat, but I have always been partial to red. I have a ranger 250 and never had a problem. It welds great. I bought the LN-25 not long after the 250 and it is another great piece of equiptment. There's alot of people who like the Bobcat too.

[MAC702]

At this level of machine, I agree there is very little difference between similar sizes. You won't find a red one on my truck, but that's got nothing to do with the quality of their equipment. I've welded a lot of stuff with Lincoln Rangers and Miller Bobcats.

It's your money, but I think I would be remiss if I didn't at least mention that you look at a machine in the class of the Miller Trailblazer, though. WELL WORTH the extra money, in my opinion, especially if you will use it often as a primary welding power source.

[TozziWelding]

I have a Miller Trailblazer, and I love it. I am looking to buy an old grey mule(SA 200) because the price is right. I am a blue iron man, Fords and Millers but I have room for a classic behind the truck. Mac is richt night and day between the Bobcat and the Trailblazer. The Bobcat is for service trucks, and the Trailblazer is for Weldors.

[pipeliner2006]

Im all for the old SA-200 Lincolns that are all copper windings.I have a 1967 long hood and an old shorthood that is getting a valve job.The old SA-200`S if in good shape will still GET-R-DONE.Some SA-200`S have aluminum windings and the heat is not consistent when stacking iorn.If it has a square looking generator behind the face its aluminum and I used one on a pipeline a few months back and it just is not as smooth as the copper wound one that I use now.

Some jobs will let nothing but Lincolns on their jobs and that is one reason I dont own nothing but lincolns.

[MAC702]

Originally Posted by pipeliner2006

...Some jobs will let nothing but Lincolns on their jobs and that is one reason I dont own nothing but lincolns.

To clarify for the OP, this happens in the Pipeline world, and if you're looking at Rangers v. Bobcats, this will NOT apply to you.

[DDA52]

.............and this helps dude wanting a comparison of Rangers vs. Bobcats...how?

[pipeliner2006]

Yes mainly some pipeline companies want only Lincoln`s with good welders behind the stinger.I dont know why because I have seen some crappy welders on some pipelines and how they stay on is a mystery to me.I firmly believe if you will be welding with rod`s over 5/32 as in 3/16th over 8 hours daily you better not invest in the miller bobcat because it will burn it up.As for the miller pipe pro it may be different?

[MAC702]

Originally Posted by pipeliner2006

...I firmly believe if you will be welding with rod`s over 5/32 as in 3/16th over 8 hours daily you better not invest in the miller bobcat because it will burn it up.As for the miller pipe pro it may be different?

It'll burn up the same class of Lincoln Ranger, too. The pipeline world has nothing to do with the scope of the question.

The Miller Pipe Pro is a whole different league and many can be found on the pipelines. They have their own issues, though.

[King of Obsolete]

i would check the make of the engine, that could be what makes your dissission. both good machines and i run the ranger 250 because we have a better dealer. the miller was not a good dealer for us so that is why i switched.

thansk

[rvannatta]

Originally Posted by King of Obsolete

i would check the make of the engine, that could be what makes your dissission. both good machines and i run the ranger 250 because we have a better dealer. the miller was not a good dealer for us so that is why i switched.

thansk

Sheesh--- on th current models blue and red have the same engine choices
but you tend to get what you payfor.

There are only a couple engine makers and you can getthe same engines
on both red and blue. all that said I have been of the view that the Blue trailblazer was a nose ahead of the blue bobcat series (and blue prices them accordingly) while the reds were more competitive with th bobcats.

I think the balance shifts when you get up into the 1800 RPM diesels.
the Lincoln Vantage series (which isn't red because it is in a stainless steel house) simply isn't matched on a price feature basis by blue. It'sa new generation with much to offer and Blue has yet to respond.....