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Brad Hodges
12-26-2016, 06:05 PM
I'm learning MIG and other metal working, all while setting up a shop/man cave using metal in a residential garage (w 50 AMP service!).

I want to buy a plate and use it for an temporary welding table placed on metal saw horses (for thin wall square tube as I make shelve brackets, bench legs, etc.) I'll need to tack stuff to the plate for jigs.

Eventually I'll make a nice welding table with C-Channel, so I'll want to be able to cut up the plate for whatever down the road.

What's a good thickness that I'll be able to cut in a garage workshop (probably with some hand tool I don't yet own?)

I have a nice De-Walt angle grinder, but don't mind buying new hand tools.

Sedanman
12-26-2016, 06:18 PM
You can cut 1/2" rather easily with a metal cutting circular saw.

Bls repair
12-26-2016, 06:35 PM
I would go with 1/4 as long as your not doing to much tacking to it or making to big span between saw horses.

BD1
12-26-2016, 06:40 PM
1/2 '' would be fine . Where you located ??? I have a 1/2'' plate that is 26'' x 55'' with radius cut corners , you can have it as a CHRISTMAS GIFT !!! I hope you are near Northern Illinois or Southern Wisconsin. :blob3::blob4:

Bistineau
12-26-2016, 06:46 PM
3/8" plate or thicker would be a good way to go, with intentions of using it later for the top to a permanent table top when you get the chance to build one. The top to my table is 3/8", and I used it on steel saw horses for several years before I made it into an actual welding table. So give that a thought before figuring you will end up cutting up the top to your temporary table.

Advan
12-26-2016, 07:00 PM
So we've heard 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2" thus far, and I'll put my vote in for at least 3/8". Easily cut with an angle grinder and zip disk, and even if the price seems steep right now, you wont regret if you plan to build a nice table at some point down the road.

Brad Hodges
12-26-2016, 07:42 PM
an angle grinder and zip disk

My De-Walt angle grinder with the 1/8" disk?

Not sure what a Zip disk is, but it sounds fun.

Bls repair
12-26-2016, 08:08 PM
It is like a grinding disk ,just thinner made for cutting

Brad Hodges
12-26-2016, 08:34 PM
My De-Walt angle grinder with the 1/8" disk?

Not sure what a Zip disk is, but it sounds fun.

Does Zip disk mean explicitly Walter ZipCut?

Or is this like Kleenex?

Zip means a thin wheel for hand help grinders designed specifically for cutting?

flushcut
12-26-2016, 08:53 PM
1/2 '' would be fine . Where you located ??? I have a 1/2'' plate that is 26'' x 55'' with radius cut corners , you can have it as a CHRISTMAS GIFT !!! I hope you are near Northern Illinois or Southern Wisconsin. :blob3::blob4:

Where you at? I am by Lake Geneva :)

BD1
12-26-2016, 09:14 PM
Where you at? I am by Lake Geneva :)

Wait a minute, YOU ARE NOT Brad Hodges ....... Ah ha , FLUSHCUT is trying to be a make believe '' Brad Hodges '' :nono: :laugh:

Advan
12-26-2016, 09:15 PM
Does Zip disk mean explicitly Walter ZipCut?

Or is this like Kleenex?

Zip means a thin wheel for hand help grinders designed specifically for cutting?




Yes, I meant "cutting wheel", but "zip disk" is a common colloquial term for the same thing. 1/8" is a little big, cut-off wheels in the 4.5-5" range are usually between .040 and .063" thick.

flushcut
12-26-2016, 09:17 PM
I'll be who ever you want me to be for a free plate. :cool2:

tapwelder
12-26-2016, 10:37 PM
Can you move the metal, weightwise? Get cut before you bring it home. 3/8" or larger will give years of service. 1/4 is a minimum. Calculate the weight you will be moving around before its a table.

Bls repair
12-26-2016, 11:02 PM
Being a temp table to cut up later ,I think a hobbie welder would have more use for thinner plate then thick plate.

John T
12-26-2016, 11:31 PM
Being a temp table to cut up later ,I think a hobbie welder would have more use for thinner plate then thick plate.

Especially if it's sitting on a set of saw horses....

ever drop a 1/2" plate on your foot????

Brad Hodges
12-26-2016, 11:40 PM
Can you move the metal, weightwise?

Now that I realize how thick I can cut with hand tools, you are correct, overall weight is the key, if I can't easily move it, it's too thick for my needs.

tapwelder
12-27-2016, 12:09 AM
Wood might suit your need. Especially if you don't plan on using it for a permanent table.

Slob
12-27-2016, 12:35 AM
I've seen 3/16 steel sheet overlain on a piece of 3/4" plywood which had a new heavy welding blanket, (insulator) under the steel table surface used for a table in a couple of places. The table framing was wood also but substantially braced and it worked for years without burning up. It was used for setup and tack welding before being moved to final weldment.

69sa200
12-27-2016, 11:41 AM
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You can cut 1/2" steel easily with a metal cutting circular saw. I have a Milwaukee 8" metal cutting saw and it made these cuts trough 1/2" steel at a rate of approximately 1" per second. I would recommend 1/4" because you may never need 1/2" plate in any of your hobbyist projects. If the plate is free get the 1/2". I cut this off of a welding table because nobody wanted it on the back of the table. So I had a piece of 8 foot long 6" wide 1/2" steel 80 lbs of scrap. I didn't want to waste it so I cut it up onto 6x6" and 3x6" pieces to use a gussets and welding practice. 1/4" is a very useful size that you can always utilize in a lot of projects. You just need to brace the table with some channel or square tubing under it to keep it from flexing like a wet noodle. The 1/4" should be fine for tacking light tubing and you can still lift it safely with 2 people. A 4 x 6 foot piece of 1/4" steel weighs 245 lbs.

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Slob
12-27-2016, 11:46 AM
You can cut 1/2" steel easily with a metal cutting circular saw. I have a Milwaukee 8" metal cutting saw and it made these cuts trough 1/2" steel at a rate of approximately 1" per second. I would recommend 1/4" because you may never need 1/2" plate in any of your hobbyist projects. If the plate is free get the 1/2". I cut this off of a welding table because nobody wanted it on the back of the table. So I had a piece of 8 foot long 6" wide 1/2" steel 80 lbs of scrap. I didn't want to waste it so I cut it up onto 6x6" and 3x6" pieces to use a gussets and welding practice. 1/4" is a very useful size that you can always utilize in a lot of projects. You just need to brace the table with some channel or square tubing under it to keep it from flexing like a wet noodle. The 1/4" should be fine for tacking light tubing and you can still lift it safely with 2 people. A 4 x 6 foot piece of 1/4" steel weighs 245 lbs.

I asked for one of those saws but only received a very large lump of coal for my stocking as my Christmas gift from Santa. My wife said she couldn't find the saw according to my description but once I identify it to her, and dependent upon my behavior, (hate that) she'll order one for me. Of course she also says if I'm not good she's gonna "nutt" me too. I'm always good; you can ask me for confirmation.....

Pete.S.
12-27-2016, 02:32 PM
Wood, 3/4" (MDF or plywood) on two sawhorses, with a 1/8" sheet metal on top. Use countersunk screws if you want them permanently together.
Don't tack anything to it - you might warp it and the wood gets charred. Use clamps instead.

Brad Hodges
12-27-2016, 07:24 PM
Thanks for all the advice, I went 1/4" with Ace Hardware $22 metal saw horse legs

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Bls repair
12-27-2016, 07:59 PM
That should do what you have to do.

walker
12-28-2016, 12:44 AM
Do yourself a favor and tack the plate to the horses.

Brad Hodges
12-28-2016, 12:58 AM
Do yourself a favor and tack the plate to the horses.

The saw horses are made of thin metal, it almost feel like tin or pot metal. See those two holes, there are three more sets covered by plate. I guess I could reach up and tack the edge of the hole to the plate?

COMPLETELY clueless as to how to set my MIG welder for something like that!

BD1
12-28-2016, 01:46 AM
The saw horses are made of thin metal, it almost feel like tin or pot metal. See those two holes, there are three more sets covered by plate. I guess I could reach up and tack the edge of the hole to the plate?

COMPLETELY clueless as to how to set my MIG welder for something like that!

I would tack some clips to the PLATE so they will keep the plate from sliding . Kinda like I did to this channel so it stays on the '' V '' of the pipe stand.

Brazin
01-11-2017, 07:19 PM
Some clamps would help there, especially if you have aluminum saw horses.