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Sticky
01-12-2004, 01:15 PM
What amp setting would you use to weld 1/16 inch steel with 1/16 inch rod (6013)? I am use to using 1/8 rod and I keep welding way to hot.

Snidley
01-12-2004, 03:07 PM
Don't know if they make a 1/16" rod. What you can get is a 3/32" rods. They have an amperage range of 45-80 amps. Pick a midway amp of about 60 and see how it goes.

Just what is it that you are welding / making? 1/16 if pretty thin.

Sticky
01-12-2004, 03:14 PM
You are correct on the 3/32 rod Snidley. Thanks for the range.

Customwelds
01-13-2004, 01:38 PM
Wal mart has 1/16" AND 5/64" electrodes! :eek:

Snidley
01-13-2004, 01:45 PM
Walmart & Home Depot and those kind of places - I will not buy my rods from.

Quite often for what they are charging for 1 pound of rods - I can go to my local welding shop and buy 5 pounds. I like to support my local guy as well you always get to browse among all the new toys. :D

malibu101
01-13-2004, 03:07 PM
Quite often for what they are charging for 1 pound of rods - I can go to my local welding shop and buy 5 pounds. I like to support my local guy as well you always get to browse among all the new toys.

My thoughts exactly ;)
Of course I usually pick up a new toy too. I want some of the BIG toys though. Too bad I don't have a BIG wallet:(

Franz
01-13-2004, 06:51 PM
There's always the guy on ePay selling those Canadian Tire Lincolns that can't be shipped in the original box.
"Uses electrode sizes from 1/16 to 3/32. I have used mine quite a bit and I can say that the best size is 1/16 and they work even better when the rods are pre heated."
I really gotta read up on preheating them rods!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2586417607&category=45031&rd=1

Internet vending at it's best.

fla jim
01-13-2004, 08:47 PM
Years ago I used to use 1/16" 6013 for sheet metal with my old Craftsman buzz box. If I remember I used about 45 amps.
Tractor Supply has 1/16" 6013

BillC
01-13-2004, 09:56 PM
I have some Lincoln 1/6 6013 rod. The container says 25 - 50 amps. I have run it around 30 amps.

Sticky
01-13-2004, 10:36 PM
Thanks for the info guys

Customwelds
01-13-2004, 11:08 PM
hahah, yeah i wasn't recommending buying them from wal-mart. Hell, they charge you ten bucks for some no name cresent wrench where you could get a name brand one anywhere else for 5! On top of that, I'm sure we all know the phrase "wal-mart fall apart."

Markopolo
01-13-2004, 11:52 PM
As long as we're talking about small rods....I've got
a question: *as they all roll their eyes and say to themselves:
"what else is new"*.....I tried some of those small rods, like
3/32" & 1/16", and I noticed that when I got to the end of
a weld, pulled out & raised the hood....the electrode
was glowing ! I normally run 1/8", and that has never happened
on those rods.....but, (being a "learner"), I like to try different
rods. Is this normal ?...(the glowing part, that is)......
Seems to me, if the flux on the rod gets THAT hot....
the rod is scrap. :confused:

Customwelds
01-14-2004, 04:09 PM
Weird, was it the whole electrode? I run 3/32 7018 H4R at the shop sometimes, the tip will normally glow, but i've never seen the whole electrode do that. Hahahaha, that did make me think of this kid that was trying to show off to me, when he went to strike the arc, the whole electrode went up! It was kind of funny, rasied me hood and was greeted by him dumbfoundedly looking at this bright red stick in his electrode holder...still don't know what he did...

Markopolo
01-14-2004, 07:53 PM
Yep !. . .the whole rod ! . . .(or I should say "what's left of it
after a few inches of bead")....glowing like a ribbon
in a toaster-oven.

boilerman
01-14-2004, 09:16 PM
your alittle to hot for that size rod ......now if you ran the whole rod from start to finish and it is just ever so slightly turning red then your tuned in right...give or take a few amps

Markopolo
01-14-2004, 10:29 PM
Thanks, Boilerman !...I think I was stoking the rod a little high.
(was cranking er' at about 90. :blush:

uglytruk
02-11-2004, 08:58 AM
This is my first post on this site:) . I've recently bought an'83 Chev. 1/2 ton 4x4, and I've been installing a beat up Fisher plow for the last two months. I finally had to unbury my Montgomery Ward AC/DC welder, and then my welds were BLAH . I used to know what the numbers reffered to, ie; 6011, 8014 etc... What's the DC do? It didn't buzz as much. My upside down welds required 3or4 passes to fill in the gaps (in the bead).I really should read a welding book, with lots'a pittures!

fla jim
02-11-2004, 10:40 AM
Andrew;
Here's a couple of links for welding rod choice.
http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Catalog/consumableseries.asp?browse=104|2030|
http://hobartwelders.com/weldit/filler/stick_charts.html
DC welds a lot smoother. You can use either DC reverse (DCEP)polarity Electrode is positive, or Straight (DCEN) where the electrode is negative. DCEP or reverse is the most common it gives the best penetration, and weld bead.
If you want a good basic book, get Richard Finch's Welders handbood. This is a real basic overview of welding processes (Welding101).
As we always recommend. Look into taking some classes at your local tech school, or JC.
Wall mountain videos is another good source of information
http://www.weldingvideos.com.
I have their mig video, it's very well done.

didlysquatts
02-11-2004, 12:45 PM
use dc.50 amps,smaller rod,7018 or 6011