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sc0tt
01-30-2007, 08:52 PM
i had a small ball melt itself into my cornea last thursday---what a bitch!!! went to the ER and the doc plucked it out with a hypodermic needle. went to get a second opinion from an eye doc the next day, and he had to jab what the ER doc missed with another hypo!!! then the "burr". they grind down the crater left from the burn with it. hurt like a mofo.


well, i just ordered some tight fitting goggles for under my helmet---lesson learned. 14 or so years welding, and my first serious injury. hopefully my pain can help a few of you out.

lewray
01-30-2007, 09:22 PM
:cry: Man Iv'e been there before... If they have'nt already told you , go to an ,spell best I can here, Optimologist (kinda eye surgeon not your eye doctor) Even though I wear the safety glasses ect.. It seems I must get these things in my eyes every couple of years or so. I have been twice to get debris drillled out. Good post I was wondering myself if others vistit their Dr.'s office too from time to time. One of the "old salty" guys ,I know, told me he had gone to his again,sp here, Optimologist atleast twice every so many years. :nono: Yeah I know it sounds like we dont wear our safety glasses and shields; however, I know I do and maybe these debris particles come from our clothes. Who knows. But thats been my expeirence.

Patriot Performance
01-30-2007, 09:30 PM
I've been down that road too sorta. Was welding over on concrete. Berry landed on the concrete and popped and shot a chunk of hot metal into my eye. I saved a trip the the doc by running around the house all night screaming and rinsing my eye. It came out eventually.

MicroZone
01-30-2007, 09:54 PM
Learned the hard way when I was 16 grinding on a car whilst doing some body work. Never again. To this day, I ALWAYS wear my eye protection, even when out of the shop and walking around. This way I don't forget to put it back on.

deadman11699
02-01-2007, 08:24 PM
Yea man I never had that happen of even thought of that. Yea im going to buy some saftey glasses now. I should have some anyways.

smithboy
02-01-2007, 09:19 PM
Me too...been there in the ER. I had the dremel treatment...pick it out and grind out the rust ring. I just had intended to smooth off a part on the gringing wheel...and, ting! a little piece flew right into my eye. It stuck out the front. I couldn't even blink right. It was a scarey thing to see. I now grab the face shield everytime I turn on the grinder or anything like it. Never again.

wallythacker
02-07-2007, 06:23 AM
Learned the hard way when I was 16 grinding on a car whilst doing some body work. Never again. To this day, I ALWAYS wear my eye protection, even when out of the shop and walking around. This way I don't forget to put it back on.

Half the time I forget I have eye protection on and wander into places (HD/LWS) still wearing it. I get a few funny looks :laugh:

I learned the hard way years ago working on a rusty car exhaust. Never again. Mofo ER Doc dug it all out with tweezers n a scraper, no novacaine. :nono:

Noa'zarc
02-12-2007, 08:35 AM
Just this summer while sharpening my lawn mower blade a tinnsy metal burr went and introduced itself to my left eye,tried all night to get it out,could'nt deal with the pain,went to mr.doctor he said letting to much time go by will create rust..nearly fainted as the doc's dam needle made its way right into my eye!..surprisinly i was wearing my eye glass protection,still sneaked through somehow.

Joe5688
02-12-2007, 01:40 PM
last year my dad got a metal shaving in his eye. He didn't think anything of it cause his eye was just kinda bothering him. He didn't even know until he went to the doctor and had it scraped out w/ a needle. It was rusted and everythign

Weldordie
02-12-2007, 04:03 PM
Half the time I forget I have eye protection on and wander into places (HD/LWS) still wearing it. I get a few funny looks :laugh:

I learned the hard way years ago working on a rusty car exhaust. Never again. Mofo ER Doc dug it all out with tweezers n a scraper, no novacaine. :nono:

Hey, Wally,

For a doctor to remove foreign objects from an injured cornea without numbing it could, easily, be considered malpractice. It takes just a single drop of the appropriate anesthetic to relieve all corneal pain. The effect of the anesthetic lasts for approximately 30 minutes, but is well worth it. Makes no sense to make anyone suffer, unnecessarily, unless you are a sadist. Sounds to me like the ER Doc (?) just wanted to make you suffer even more for being so stupid, as to get something into your eye. Or... it may have been the first time that the idiot had ever removed something from an eye.

I once saw a patient, who thought he had a soft contact lens stuck onto the front of his eye. He had made several attempts to remove it himself, then went to a GP for help. Well, the doctor didn't have a microscope, like I had, to help him properly evaluate the situation, but that didn't stop him from trying to remove the contact from the front of the guy's eye by gouging his cornea several times with a spud tool. By the time the guy got to my office for a second opinion, much of the outer cellular covering (epithelium) of the cornea had been gouged off. End of story... the guy had lost the contact lens, but thought it was still on his eye. It was not even on the eye when the GP tried to remove it, but he did manage to get a lot of the epithelium off.

Moral... although a doctor may wear a white smock and have a framed diploma hanging on the wall, it doesn't mean he or she knows what the he!! he or she is doing.

Weldordie –– hobby welder; DIY: electrician, plumber, roofer, builder, painter, appliance repairman, electronic designer, gadgeteer, fisherman... retired: windsurfer, skier, hunter, optometrist.

LSX89RS
03-02-2007, 01:41 AM
Hey, Wally,

For a doctor to remove foreign objects from an injured cornea without numbing it could, easily, be considered malpractice. It takes just a single drop of the appropriate anesthetic to relieve all corneal pain. The effect of the anesthetic lasts for approximately 30 minutes, but is well worth it. Makes no sense to make anyone suffer, unnecessarily, unless you are a sadist. Sounds to me like the ER Doc (?) just wanted to make you suffer even more for being so stupid, as to get something into your eye. Or... it may have been the first time that the idiot had ever removed something from an eye.

I once saw a patient, who thought he had a soft contact lens stuck onto the front of his eye. He had made several attempts to remove it himself, then went to a GP for help. Well, the doctor didn't have a microscope, like I had, to help him properly evaluate the situation, but that didn't stop him from trying to remove the contact from the front of the guy's eye by gouging his cornea several times with a spud tool. By the time the guy got to my office for a second opinion, much of the outer cellular covering (epithelium) of the cornea had been gouged off. End of story... the guy had lost the contact lens, but thought it was still on his eye. It was not even on the eye when the GP tried to remove it, but he did manage to get a lot of the epithelium off.

Moral... although a doctor may wear a white smock and have a framed diploma hanging on the wall, it doesn't mean he or she knows what the he!! he or she is doing.

Weldordie –– hobby welder; DIY: electrician, plumber, roofer, builder, painter, appliance repairman, electronic designer, gadgeteer, fisherman... retired: windsurfer, skier, hunter, optometrist.

they call it a "practice" for a reason.

Weldordie
03-02-2007, 01:53 AM
they call it a "practice" for a reason.

Yup. I practiced for 30 years, until I finally got it right, then I retired.

wallythacker
03-02-2007, 04:27 AM
I think the ER doc was a newb, first time he saw such a thing. Young guy, but I don't know if that played into it.

I don't take chances now. Impact resistant prescrip glasses under full side coverage safety glasses, z87.1 inner and outer lenses on my hood.

Same deal grinding. Goggle safety lenses over prescrip impact glasses under a full face sheild with a bib. Knock wood, so far so good.

I don't plan to repeat my adventure, ever.

I really cringe watching old videos of guys in machine shops with chips flying all around and old-time miners blazing away with hard-rock drills and picks. It's amazing they're not all blind.

Weldordie
03-02-2007, 04:09 PM
I think the ER doc was a newb, first time he saw such a thing. Young guy, but I don't know if that played into it.

I don't take chances now. Impact resistant prescrip glasses under full side coverage safety glasses, z87.1 inner and outer lenses on my hood.

Same deal grinding. Goggle safety lenses over prescrip impact glasses under a full face sheild with a bib. Knock wood, so far so good.

I don't plan to repeat my adventure, ever.

I really cringe watching old videos of guys in machine shops with chips flying all around and old-time miners blazing away with hard-rock drills and picks. It's amazing they're not all blind.

True. I sometimes purchase metal from a supplier, who has young guys working in the lot, outside. They don't wear any eye protection when they lop off iron with a torch or HUGE chop saw.

tanky321
03-02-2007, 04:23 PM
I had a peice of steel go in my eye, I worked it out within a couple days but it formed a rust ring, they had to drill it out. It was scary as sh^t but it didnt hurt at all. It felt very very wierd though when I would blink I could feel my eyelid going over the recess. :waving:

DirtyLittleSecret
03-04-2007, 05:03 PM
i had a small ball melt itself into my cornea last thursday---what a bitch!!! went to the ER and the doc plucked it out with a hypodermic needle. went to get a second opinion from an eye doc the next day, and he had to jab what the ER doc missed with another hypo!!! then the "burr". they grind down the crater left from the burn with it. hurt like a mofo.


well, i just ordered some tight fitting goggles for under my helmet---lesson learned. 14 or so years welding, and my first serious injury. hopefully my pain can help a few of you out.


Now you know what I went through. Blew my cornea at altitude (17k ft) two years ago. Every night when I hit REM sleep I'd wake up to INSANE pain. Took over a year to be diagnosed with "Basal Membrane Dystrophy". Caused the cells on my cornea to not heal correctly and at night the cells would rip off. A few procedures later and Im perfectly good now. Unfortunately I had over 130 "erosions" in that time...and my wife just thought I was a sissy. Took over a month after being healed to actually "loosen up" enough to get deep sleep. Kept thinking about when the next stabbing eye pain would hit!

Even though this wasnt from trauma, Ive learned that eye protection is SERIOUS.:cool: I bought a good auto hood and try to live under it while working.

Weldordie
03-04-2007, 08:20 PM
Now you know what I went through. Blew my cornea at altitude (17k ft) two years ago.

Mind if I ask what caused your cornea to "blow?" I visualize you skydiving, perhaps.

DirtyLittleSecret
03-04-2007, 09:11 PM
Mind if I ask what caused your cornea to "blow?" I visualize you skydiving, perhaps.

Ski mountaineering on Denali, AK. My wife's dog scratched my eye about a month before the expedition. Altitude increased the intraocular pressure to the point of rupture. Fun downclimbing half blind and in pain. Because of the genetic defect the cells simply didnt heal correctly prior to the trip.

Weldordie
03-04-2007, 10:59 PM
Ski mountaineering on Denali, AK. My wife's dog scratched my eye about a month before the expedition. Altitude increased the intraocular pressure to the point of rupture. Fun downclimbing half blind and in pain. Because of the genetic defect the cells simply didnt heal correctly prior to the trip.

The globe of your eye, actually, burst? I've not heard of this occurring.

DirtyLittleSecret
03-04-2007, 11:16 PM
no no no...
The tear that hadnt healed blew open = HUGE gouge of the cornea. Took about 1/2 of the surface of the cornea right off. Definitely dont want to go through ANY of that again, and hence my overly anal eye protection!
Already got plans for HA again...

Weldordie
03-05-2007, 01:11 AM
no no no...
The tear that hadnt healed blew open = HUGE gouge of the cornea. Took about 1/2 of the surface of the cornea right off. Definitely dont want to go through ANY of that again, and hence my overly anal eye protection!
Already got plans for HA again...

Okay... makes sense, now. You had a denuding of your corneal epithelium, which exposed multiples of corneal nerves. I know that is quite painful, but was led astray, when you referred to it as a rupture. Just curious, and I know it's been awhile, since the dog scratched your eye, but do you remember if you used an ointment to treat the scratch, originally?

The reason I ask is because I have a theory that certain ointments should not be used in the eye after denuding injuries. A relative of mine scratched her cornea with a mascara brush, and the doctor had her use an ointment. She had recurring denuding for months. She would wake up in the morning, open her eyes, and a section of epithelium would stick to her eyelid, pulling it off the cornea. It sounds like you suffered the same malady.

I think some doctors Rx petrolatum based ointments, not realizing that the lubricant prevents new-growth epithelium from properly sticking to the next membrane. Kinda like oiling a joint before using using JB Weld.

DirtyLittleSecret
03-05-2007, 01:37 AM
The optometrist I went to is the lead director at the Casey Eye Institute (Corneal). My stepmother recently retired as a subdirector, and my father left half his estate to this doctors research. He had a little reason to take good care of me.
His recommendation was a PM ointment (petro base) like you said. Found that it did indeed cause more harm, and went to the heavy gels (Genteal makes a good gel).
When I was diagnosed with BMD the doc officially changed me over to the gels. There's quite a few people who have BMD, but dont know it. Few doctors know what it is, and something like 15% of people go through it at some point in thier lives.
Sorry I was trying to keep to the KISS theory in describing the situation. It does indeed sound like your sister went through what I did, but for me it took over a year for diagnosis. I totally feel for her.
In the end, I needed both eyes to be scraped numerous times with patches, steroidal eye drops, painkillers, and about 4 months of "down time". Too much scarring from months of damage. What really sucked is that Im in a dual MA program, and had to put my life on hold. Vision is now back to 15/15, and getting caught up with the program (graduate next Fall)!
If you need a great doc here in Portland who is an international specialist let me know!

Weldordie
03-05-2007, 03:00 AM
Thanks for taking time to relate "the rest of the story." Glad to hear that your vision returned to excellent. Hope the studying goes well.