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ive got dogs around the shop

sometimes im out welding outside the barn or in the field near the cows

ever give any thought to the animals around. sometimes the dopey cows wanna git right up in there...i try to shield em but sometimes i know they must be getting blinded

the dogs will walk into the shop when im tiggin and i wont see em til im done...or lay under the truck while im miggin 20 ft away

doesnt seem to bother em but i know it must give em flashburn..or could anyways

but i never seen an animal acting like they got it?

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My boy is always nearby when Im in the garage.

Or anywhere really... LoL

But he is usually snoozing on his blanky and could care less...

If I am grinding something and throwing sparks
He beats feet on the double...
 
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I read once somewhere that the effects diminish with distance and (don't quote me) somewhere's about 40 feet the effects are negligible. Closer than that I would assume animals would have the same problems as people with their eyes.
 
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I wondered the same thing about my dogs eyes, a couple of months ago I rigged up a 8x10 tarp that I can hang from the beams behind where I'm welding. They use too leave as soon as I turned on a welder, and now as long as the tarp is up they come and go and sleep while I'm welding. Made me think it works.
 
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My dog was lots shop smarter than the neighborhood kids.

If I heated up a quarter and dropped it on the floor, the dog never touched it. But the kids fell for it every time :)
 
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Animals don't understand UV risk to the eyes; you can only get flashed so many times before you have permanent eye damage. I send all my critters away when welding.

Fwaking neighbors blind dog would attack anything that moved.
 
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our pugs used to watch me work but when it came to welding I would put up a piece of OSB on their kennel to shield them from the light, I couldn't do nothing for the neighbors dogs but it never seemed to affect them.
 
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i have no neightbors so thats not an issue. my own. cows/dogs. they come and go while im working sometimes and dont seem to notice even. they usually dont hand around if im actually welding but the cows will stand right there 40 ft away.
 
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animals have the same eyes as humans for the most part, they cant tell you they are burning or hurt from uv rays, so its up to you to protect them, I put my dogs inside away from where im welding, if you have larger animals then put up some welding blankets to block the light..its not rocket science....so if you weld around animals and dont protect them you are guilty of animal abuse..you wouldnt let your kids watch you weld without protection..would you?
 
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Published on Aug 11, 2014

Welders wear Dark eye protection to protect their eyes. Animals can't protect their eyes and a natural instinct is to look at new, strange or loud things. Protect your dogs, horses, cats and other animals and keep them away from any welding that is on-going. Below is some information about how welding light can cause blindness and eye issues.

The temperature of an electric arc can be from 6,000 to 11,000 degrees or even hotter. This is hotter than the outer visible layers of the sun which are about 5500 deg. C.

When objects are heated, they give off visible light, the hotter they are the more light that is given off. As the temperature rises the frequency of the light also goes up.

It colors changes from light red to orange, yellow, brilliant white. If temperature rises higher eventually the color turns to whitish blue, produced by the extremely hot gas of an arc.

At that temperature of an whitish blue, the frequency is beyond the range of visible light, into the range of invisible Ultraviolet light. More UV light is given off than visible. UV light can cause "sun" burns, kill skin cells and damages the eye.

Certain types of UV radiation can produce an injury to the surface and mucous membrane (conjunctiva) of the eye called 'welders' eye or 'arc flash.' These are common names for "conjunctivitis" - an inflammation of the mucous membrane of the front of the eye. The symptoms include:
• inability to look at light sources (photo phobia)
• tearing and reddening of the eye and membranes around the eye
• pain or pressure in the eyes to intense pain in severe instances
• can give a sensation of sand in the eye and abnormal light sensitivity

The amount of time required to cause these effects depends on several factors like intensity of radiation, distance from the welding arc source, angle radiation enters the eye and type of eye protection being used. Exposure to a few seconds of intense UV light can cause eye damage. Long-term exposure to UV light can produce cataracts. Exposure to infrared light can heat the lens of the eye and produce cataracts over the long term.

Visible light from welding processes is bright & can overwhelm the ability of the iris to close rapidly enough to limit the light reaching the retina. The result is that the light is temporarily blinding and fatiguing to the eye. (See link to Flash Blindness)

Blue light hazard is the temporary or permanent scarring of the retina due to its sensitivity to blue light and this occurs around 440 nm wavelength. Blindness may result.

Flash Blindness is what happens when someone shines a bright flashlight in your eye or if a flash from a camera goes off. Since Horses have much better night vision, any flashlight at night can cause Flash Blindness for up to 30 minutes. DON'T USE FLASHLIGHTS AROUND HORSES AT NIGHT.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flash_bl...

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#12 · (Edited)
Saturday morning cartoons used to be about Elmer Fudd chasing Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote chasing the Road Runner, and Tom chasing Jerry. Now it's all animal / pet rescue shows. Good grief. If you have to ask if welding around an animal is bad, you already know the answer.

Little boys who hurt animals grow up to be terrorists and beat their women. Okay, we got it.

Kev

Edit: This post is said in a nice tone, like a comment. I'm not crawling all over anyone.
 
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Kev said:
Saturday morning cartoons used to be about Elmer Fudd chasing Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote chasing the Road Runner, and Tom chasing Jerry. Now it's all animal / pet rescue shows. Good grief. If you have to ask if welding around an animal is bad, you already know the answer.

Little boys who hurt animals grow up to be terrorists and beat their women. Okay, we got it.

Kev

Edit: This post is said in a nice tone, like a comment. I'm not crawling all over anyone.
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A question was asked, I answered it and gave you facts...im not beating a dead horse, so whats up your ***?how ever you state its being said, you are insinuating like your being hounded by a point.....your second post should have been your first post....
 
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dieselbeef said:
i know its bad..i try not to do it..but like lots of things..it happens. was wondering if anyone else had the same issues
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Yeah, I had a problem last summer. We were about an hour away from home in a new addition to a hog barn. The farmer had a beautiful Border Collie. I told the farmer right away that he was lucky his dog was too big to fit in my lunchbox or I'd be sneaking him home. He laughed.

Within a day I was welding the gates and fence lines that we stood up in the barn. I only welded a couple of feet -- feet, as in a foot, on the bottom of a gate -- and I lifted the hood to see the Border Collie standing not six feet away with its mouth open and tail wagging. Another fella on the crew told me that while I was welding the dog was going after the sparks. I had to tell him, the dog, not the guy on the crew, to "Git!" He would move back five feet and wag his tail at me. I finally had to find the farmer, who was outside on a tractor, that his dog had to leave the barn. I told him about the sparks and he says, "Yeah, he does that."

At least once a day after that for the next week that dog would go to great lengths to find his way back into the barn just to chase after sparks. A few times, before I knew it, the dog was catching an entire face full of sparks from our cutoff saw that was being operated by another guy on our crew. A real prick. When I asked, one guy said, "Oh, that's been going on all morning." That pissed me off. I told the guy on the saw to at least yell at the dog or do something. His reply was, "F**k him! It's not our problem. I have work to do." I told my boss that we have to keep the dog out of the barn or he's going to be messed up or blind. My boss went and had a nice talk with the farmer, and after that, the dog was kept up by the house, I'm guessing either in a fence or on a chain.

There's always a prick on every crew.

Kev
 
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roadkillbobb said:
A question was asked, I answered it and gave you facts...im not beating a dead horse, so whats up your ***?
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Nothing up my ***. I was simply commenting. The "Okay, we got it" comment by me isn't directed toward anyone on this thread. It's a remark of mine directed toward the reason we don't have Saturday morning cartoons anymore.

Kev
 
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One my boss had black lab name bama he went everywhere with him working in shop he pretty smart dog i would be tig welding when push tig button it had post purge delay he would close his eyes when he heard hi frequency kick in one friday he left bama in shop all weekend ,come monday morning he **** all over shop ,my truck driver step in it!!! He took shovel scoop it up went in boss man office before he got there open up desk drawer and he had special surprise when he open it up!! He was pissed!!!!!!!!!!
 
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