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Anyone here use one? What do think? I'm suspecting Oscar has one.
Watched all the YouTube videos, seems like that pulse thing is finicky. Never used a MIG with pulse so I don't know if its worth it.
The TIG feature is not a big deal to me but how does it stick weld? I have yet to see much about the stick feature, no mention of any 6010.
The 220 is comparable or in the price range of a Lincoln 215, HTP about $300-400 more.
Miller 255 has pulse but not so portable, to me that would be a shop machine and I have a Miller 250 already.
 
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So I'm a Tig guy at heart, been assembling these Alum "crates" (@3'X3'X3' in 1/4 & 1/8") with a lot welding in them. I purchased a 220 to convert to Mig for the time savings but, haven't made one yet (waiting till Spring). In Alum, with Pulse, I have done some coupons and played around with double pulse too. My impression is that the skill, to make tig-like looking welds, is going to be more about the Start/Stop on my series of short welds. I'm gearing up for those lessons though ;) bought the slide-control and been collecting .047 in 5356, 4043, even 4943 and am anxious to start...

No Stick, but I have used it on Steel a bunch and am Very happy with how it works, Sprays really well I think (my other Migs don't spray, this was my first experience, I Liked it!) The menus are a little "clugely" but the YouTube Vids are Excellent -> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNRb2juhwdd1k4Gsb8Gt4HAjupzHc8Mr4

Oh yea,,, SilBrz too! That's a fun experience and have some panels to replace on my truck. Did a bunch of those coupons too. I like the machine very much!
 
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metalman21 said:
Never used a MIG with pulse so I don't know if its worth it.
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In my opinion, pulse MIG is super useful. I think the general consensus is it is only good/useful for aluminum, but I don't agree with that. For steel, I think its good for situations where you want to use spray, but need to work out of position. Its so much hotter than short circuit MIG. But I am not sure if a 200 amp MIG would be as useful on steel as a 350 amp MIG (i.e., the MM255)

If you want to play with pulse, let me know. Bring some coupons and have at it. I am a little low on scrap steel lately. Its not that far from East Haven to Thomaston. :)
 
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It's only finicky if you don't take the time to at least learn a little bit about some of the available settings, which is not all that many (just start speed, start time, pre/post flow). The pulse operation is pretty much identical to the Pro Pulse 200 and eazy-peazy if you understand basic pulse-MIG operation. The stick side of it is a basic stick welder, no E6010s.

[video=youtube_share;GTv1VCFKki8]https://youtu.be/GTv1VCFKki8[/video]
 
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Louie1961 said:
In my opinion, pulse MIG is super useful. I think the general consensus is it is only good/useful for aluminum, but I don't agree with that. For steel, I think its good for situations where you want to use spray, but need to work out of position. Its so much hotter than short circuit MIG. But I am not sure if a 200 amp MIG would be as useful on steel as a 350 amp MIG (i.e., the MM255)

If you want to play with pulse, let me know. Bring some coupons and have at it. I am a little low on scrap steel lately. Its not that far from East Haven to Thomaston. :)
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Very generous of you to offer some time on your 255. I liked that Miller since it was introduced and considered replacing my old MM250. I know it runs a Spoolmatic 30 because I called Miller about it.
Would you like to try some aluminum with it?
 
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BaTu said:
So I'm a Tig guy at heart, been assembling these Alum "crates" (@3'X3'X3' in 1/4 & 1/8") with a lot welding in them. I purchased a 220 to convert to Mig for the time savings but, haven't made one yet (waiting till Spring). In Alum, with Pulse, I have done some coupons and played around with double pulse too. My impression is that the skill, to make tig-like looking welds, is going to be more about the Start/Stop on my series of short welds. I'm gearing up for those lessons though ;) bought the slide-control and been collecting .047 in 5356, 4043, even 4943 and am anxious to start...

No Stick, but I have used it on Steel a bunch and am Very happy with how it works, Sprays really well I think (my other Migs don't spray, this was my first experience, I Liked it!) The menus are a little "clugely" but the YouTube Vids are Excellent -> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLNRb2juhwdd1k4Gsb8Gt4HAjupzHc8Mr4

Oh yea,,, SilBrz too! That's a fun experience and have some panels to replace on my truck. Did a bunch of those coupons too. I like the machine very much!
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I TIG 99% of everything. MIG/MAG on production is where it shines. However I can be almost as quick with TIG and the results are always nicer. Its the pulse thing that has me curious.
Glad you like the HTP 220.
 
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Oscar said:
It's only finicky if you don't take the time to at least learn a little bit about some of the available settings, which is not all that many (just start speed, start time, pre/post flow). The pulse operation is pretty much identical to the Pro Pulse 200 and eazy-peazy if you understand basic pulse-MIG operation. The stick side of it is a basic stick welder, no E6010s.
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I'm sure there is a learning curve and some old MIG habits to disregard. I watched most all the videos I could find including yours. The stick side isn't important, I have other machines that do a good job with that.
The TIG feature might be handy (outside the shop) but have to learn lift start after having HF for 38 years. I'm sure I could do it but wouldn't want to use it all the time.
 
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metalman21 said:
Very generous of you to offer some time on your 255. I liked that Miller since it was introduced and considered replacing my old MM250. I know it runs a Spoolmatic 30 because I called Miller about it.
Would you like to try some aluminum with it?
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If you want to bring your spoolmatic along, I'd be fine with that. I am pretty sure I still have an 80 cu ft tank of argon down there.
 
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Beautiful newborn you have there! :laugh:

Do you already have a C10 mix for pulsed-spray operation?
Let me know if you need any help setting it up, and/or join up on my Signal HTP Group chat.
 
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Oscar said:
Beautiful newborn you have there! :laugh:

Do you already have a C10 mix for pulsed-spray operation?
Let me know if you need any help setting it up, and/or join up on my Signal HTP Group chat.
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Yes it is nicely made. I don't have the C10 or 8 yet. I'm either going to get what my LWS has or get a CO2 and try and mix it with a Smith 2 gas unit I have. Way easier to just get a couple of tanks.
I tried it out this morning with C25, .030 wire and burned a 6011, 7014 and a 7018. Nothing to take a picture of (just a smoking mess) but all works well.
I'm sure I will want to discuss set ups, you be the man with that info, thanks. What, where is your Signal HTP Group chat thing?
 
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metalman21 said:
Yes it is nicely made. I don't have the C10 or 8 yet. I'm either going to get what my LWS has or get a CO2 and try and mix it with a Smith 2 gas unit I have. Way easier to just get a couple of tanks.
I tried it out this morning with C25, .030 wire and burned a 6011, 7014 and a 7018. Nothing to take a picture of (just a smoking mess) but all works well.
I'm sure I will want to discuss set ups, you be the man with that info, thanks. What, where is your Signal HTP Group chat thing?
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I prefer to mix because otherwise I would have to special order at my LWS, so that is why I did the whole Y-valve thing initially and then built my Frankenmixer. This way I keep lots of argon tanks because that is always the main constituent whether it be TIG or MIG welding. I have yet to run out of COâ‚‚ in the 20lb tank, let alone the 10ftÂł tank of oxygen. The link to the Signal HTP chat is now in your PM inbox.
 
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precivilization said:
After owning mostly European tools, I think generally the Italians make the best products out of all the other Europeans. IMO.
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what tools specifically you talking about ? i dont know of any mechanics hand tools made over there. theres a company making pliers ,clamps and that sort of thing but ive not heard of much else. germany has numerous tool companies like stahlwille ,gedore, kukko and others. wera isnt far away in czech repulic and their tools are nice from the ones ive seen.
 
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cornchip said:
what tools specifically you talking about ? i dont know of any mechanics hand tools made over there. theres a company making pliers ,clamps and that sort of thing but ive not heard of much else. germany has numerous tool companies like stahlwille ,gedore, kukko and others. wera isnt far away in czech repulic and their tools are nice from the ones ive seen.
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i was a distributor for Wera tools, which at the time was pretty much their only presence in Canada. Quality is excellent.

Europeans are partial to hand tools with a duller satin finish. Matador Tools
(Germany)has an excellent line of tools including sockets and wrenches.

They were working with me on providing a line of tools with a higher quality of finish for the North American market. ( which prefers the proverbial "bling " finish.)

i still have samples .....

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