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Dmmit man havin that much fun and gettin paid for it just aint morally responsible!!!

It looks like some nice work as always Birdman

Popeye
 
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I'm glad you seem to have worked your way into a lifetime supply of machines to fix (although it looks to me like HARD work) but I'm left with a question. Namely, are these machines WAY underdesigned, or do the operators abuse them by running them until they nearly fall apart?

Tim
 
I'm glad you seem to have worked your way into a lifetime supply of machines to fix (although it looks to me like HARD work) but I'm left with a question. Namely, are these machines WAY underdesigned, or do the operators abuse them by running them until they nearly fall apart?

Tim
The PROPERLY designed machines are lined with rubber,,
They:
last longer
and
the neighbors do not complain about the noise,,,


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I do not think it is the operators,, but,, they do grind EVERYTHING!! :eek:
 
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I'm glad you seem to have worked your way into a lifetime supply of machines to fix (although it looks to me like HARD work) but I'm left with a question. Namely, are these machines WAY underdesigned, or do the operators abuse them by running them until they nearly fall apart?

Tim
This one and another of the big grinders are 30 years old. These have 25K lb mills driven with a twin turbo V-12 Cats, cranked they're over 1700 hp burning 75+ gallons an hour, grinding 1000 yards an hr. (all 8 grinders have twin turbo V-12 Cats)

They have 8 grinders with 5, 3 - 4 man grinding crews. Five grinders running every day, 2 being touched up and pulled to the next job, one in the shop being rebuilt, Can take a year or so to rebuild the one in worse condition. The smallest grinder weighs 40 tons, the rest go from 45 ton to 55 ton each. The grinders get pushed hard, they the employees) work 50 hrs a week. Engineering wise they are built solid and are maxed out on weight. 1/2" AR ((3/8" backer) plate in the shute under the mill is a consumable on these machines. It can last 2 years as long as the mill doesn't let go of something or they stick a grappler in the mill.

The 3 ribs in the shute were 1"" AR.
They have been replaced 4 times in this grinders life, I'll be repairing these in this run. Were not changing them this time, this also isn't the worse I was talking about.

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There is a lot more insight I could give you on these machines but I've posted a lot of it already. Just the vibration these machines put out is intimidating with the mill balanced. Running 8+ hours a day, 5 days a week is hard on them. But thats also why the cost 1 mil to 1.7 mil a piece. lol ;)
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I suppose you do a fair bit of cutting on these grinders out of necessity. Do you use O/A torch or plasma torch more? I would think O/A would get to be quite expensive with all the cutting and replacing plate that you do on these, FB? It looks like you’ll never run out of work, but rather would like to get a little less at times!
 
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I suppose you do a fair bit of cutting on these grinders out of necessity. Do you use O/A torch or plasma torch more? I would think O/A would get to be quite expensive with all the cutting and replacing plate that you do on these, FB? It looks like you’ll never run out of work, but rather would like to get a little less at times!
I use both O/A and Plasma. More O/A than plasma. My plasma will cut an inch but it is slower than the O/A so I use it more 1/2" and under and not as much in the field.
Teeth and grapplers is where I really empty tanks, O/A and CO2. That can run me $300 to $500 a week when using them heavy.
I had it figured in when I gave them my price (as a iron worker and mainly working heavy my whole career I had a pretty good idea.)
Hell my wire bill can exceed $2500 a month on the tub rebuilds and the grapplers can come close to that. But I have quite a few months where they are barely anything at all.
Yeah luckily I can call my own work hours, breaks, cool downs in the summer, etc. 97% of the time cause it does get hard at times. ;)
 
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