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    2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick Welder

    The 2016 PowerMTS 251Si has several features that set it apart when compared to the Miller Multimatic 200, Lincoln 210 MP, Tweco Fabricator 251i, and even the new ESAB rebel. Designed as a heavy duty replacement for the PowerMTS 250S and early 2015 251si models, the 251si takes several things to a new level.

    1) This unit offers increased wire capacity, with room to handle up to a 12" roll of wire. It's still fully portable but shouldn't a 250 amp welder be a big boy?
    2) The welder now features a 4 roll, gear driven feeder which make it sure-footed when feeding any size wire the unit is designed for.
    3) Two fan design, offers plenty of additional cooling without creating a lot of noise.
    4) The new Pulse MIG feature allows you to make the most out of spray arc welding which is particularly useful in welding aluminum but also other metals as well. It offers full, independently controlled pulse MIG parameters without a need to access hidden menus or complicated programming. This is a industry first in a MIG/TIG/Stick welder like this and is another point worth comparing to competitors. Go compare for yourself.
    5) Not only is it equipped with a pulse MIG, this unit also features DC pulse TIG welding, another unique feature and improvement for a 3 in 1 welder like this.
    6) This unit offers another important industry first: HF start for TIG welding. Of course, you can still select lift start for TIG when necessary, but having HF start means less tungsten contamination, less time resharpening and more time welding.
    7) This unit includes a ready-to-go TIG package in its price...so don't forget that. All you'll need is tungsten and argon gas to get started TIGging. You won't have to wire or rig this welder to make it work with TIG either. You can even keep the door close to the welder while TIG welding as all controls and features are mounted on the front. We even offer upgrades to the premium CK line of accessories along with an SSC pedal as an option.

    Go compare the unit against our competitors. This by far offers more features than any other compact MIG/TIG/Stick welder on the market.
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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    Did I mention that this unit does not need a gas valve torch since the gas solenoid for TIG is built into the welder, right on the front?
    Esab Migmaster 250
    Lincoln SA 200
    Lincoln Ranger 8
    Smith Oxy Fuel setup
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80
    Everlast Power iMIG 160
    Everlast Power iMIG 205
    Everlast Power iMIG 140E
    Everlast PowerARC 300
    Everlast PowerARC 140ST
    Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    When will it be available and what is the price?

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    Quote Originally Posted by epistememe View Post
    When will it be available and what is the price?
    I'd like to know as well
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    Esab Rebel EMP215
    A few mini excavators, a hooklift truck, too many other rigs.
    I have too many projects...

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    They are scheduled to drop into port next week. Price will see an increase of about 50.00 more than the current price.
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    Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    http://www.amazon.com/Everlast-Power.../dp/B0143MGKVI

    This seems to be a lot more than $50 over the current price

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    No. Not sure the math works out over the older 251Si sold in 2015. In fact the price hasn't even gone up yet since they aren't in stock...just pre-order pricing it would appear. http://www.everlastgenerators.com/pr...si-tig-package
    Esab Migmaster 250
    Lincoln SA 200
    Lincoln Ranger 8
    Smith Oxy Fuel setup
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80
    Everlast Power iMIG 160
    Everlast Power iMIG 205
    Everlast Power iMIG 140E
    Everlast PowerARC 300
    Everlast PowerARC 140ST
    Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    Quote Originally Posted by lugweld View Post
    No. Not sure the math works out over the older 251Si sold in 2015. In fact the price hasn't even gone up yet since they aren't in stock...just pre-order pricing it would appear. http://www.everlastgenerators.com/pr...si-tig-package
    FYI - the ESAB Rebel 215ic (Mig/Tig/Stick) is listed at Baker's Gas & Welding for $1,345

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    I am not sure what to make of that except to say, compare apples to apples. The rebel doesn't come anywhere near it in wire roll capability, included accessories, features or power of the 251Si. Better compare to our 211 and it still falls short on features and included accessories especially for those wanting to take advantage of the TIG feature.

    Plus, we've been selling developing, making and selling compact inverter MTS units since 2009. The first to do so in the US. ESAB is just cutting it's teeth on the market. We've honed our units and offer a package that performs and includes everything you need to TIG, STICK or MIG weld. And we have a foot pedal and a TIG torch without a gas valve because the gas solenoid is built in.
    Esab Migmaster 250
    Lincoln SA 200
    Lincoln Ranger 8
    Smith Oxy Fuel setup
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80
    Everlast Power iMIG 160
    Everlast Power iMIG 205
    Everlast Power iMIG 140E
    Everlast PowerARC 300
    Everlast PowerARC 140ST
    Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    I agree the Esab 215ic is better compared to the 211si. It's similar in power, with a cool screen and rugged looking chassis, but it loses on duty cycle, lack of HF start / gas solenoid, and price.

    The 251si adds more power and pulse settings over the 211si.
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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    I was looking at purchasing one of these units but its impossible to get ahold of anyone with any information about these units I emailed mark a few times and I get told to call Oleg and I did he was out of the office and was to return my phone call to answer my questions I've now called twice after being told he would call me and still haven't found anything out with this unit just wish I could get a few questions from the company

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    When will an Online manual be available?

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    I have ordered and used the Everlast 255ext TIG, and Everlast 50s plasma cutter. I have been very pleased with both. I just ordered the 251Si as it looks like a dream machine. I will be doing a online review of all three soon.

    My goal is to get the spool gun for this unit as well.

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    Can I get a comment one way or another as to an online manual. IE if you guys will be coming without one soon.

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    No online manual. No date on the release. The 250S manual is fairly close, though not identical.
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    Lincoln SA 200
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    Smith Oxy Fuel setup
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80
    Everlast Power iMIG 160
    Everlast Power iMIG 205
    Everlast Power iMIG 140E
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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    Just got my 251Si and have been testing things out. One problem I have is that the TIG HF start does not work. Lift start does. Is their anything I can check?

    Please note that it is in HF start mode. I did notice that it does not sound like my 255ext when the unit is triggered. My 255ext has a slight sizzling sound and the 251Si just has a hiss sound.
    Last edited by msimpson99; 03-29-2016 at 02:57 AM.

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    Point gap may need to be adjusted. Bur call tech support first and tell them and see if there are anything else to look for before you do.
    Esab Migmaster 250
    Lincoln SA 200
    Lincoln Ranger 8
    Smith Oxy Fuel setup
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80
    Everlast Power iMIG 160
    Everlast Power iMIG 205
    Everlast Power iMIG 140E
    Everlast PowerARC 300
    Everlast PowerARC 140ST
    Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    I will give them a call in a few days, after I have a chance to test the MIG. My first hurdle is that there is no way to mount 4" rolls. I have something setup temporarily, but want to fabricate something.

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    Looking for a second source for replacement nozzles on the mig torch. Any one have a link? Also I would like a flux core nozzle as well.

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    The torches do not have flux core nozzles. They are able to use flux core with the standard gun, but do not have a separate flux core head.

    Plenty of sources out there. Riverweld is a good one if you like cheap and want to wait a week. Or any trafimet or binzel dealer can set you up with them. HTP carries parts for certain model trafimet and binzel guns, which they use on their equipment as well.
    Esab Migmaster 250
    Lincoln SA 200
    Lincoln Ranger 8
    Smith Oxy Fuel setup
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80
    Everlast Power iMIG 160
    Everlast Power iMIG 205
    Everlast Power iMIG 140E
    Everlast PowerARC 300
    Everlast PowerARC 140ST
    Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    I just noticed that there were some torches that had both the gas and the flux nozzles. The main benefit with the flux nozzle (when using flux wire) is that they taper off and provide better visibility and access to corners.

    As for my TIG HF start problem. It was all my bad. Works like a champ. I contacted Tech support via email and in less than 24 hours had a response. A tech ran me through things and found my problem.
    Last edited by msimpson99; 03-30-2016 at 04:35 PM.

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    What was the issue? If you can share it, it may help others to check before they hit the panic button.
    Esab Migmaster 250
    Lincoln SA 200
    Lincoln Ranger 8
    Smith Oxy Fuel setup
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80
    Everlast Power iMIG 160
    Everlast Power iMIG 205
    Everlast Power iMIG 140E
    Everlast PowerARC 300
    Everlast PowerARC 140ST
    Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    I have three of your machines, and they are all currently on a table. From behind they all look alike to me. Problem is, I did not have my Argon tank connected to the correct machine. Oooops. No gas = No HF start.

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    Might want to get a white paint ball marker and label them. lol.
    Esab Migmaster 250
    Lincoln SA 200
    Lincoln Ranger 8
    Smith Oxy Fuel setup
    Everlast PowerPlasma 80
    Everlast Power iMIG 160
    Everlast Power iMIG 205
    Everlast Power iMIG 140E
    Everlast PowerARC 300
    Everlast PowerARC 140ST
    Everlast PowerTIG 255EXT

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    Re: 2016 PowerMTS 251Si Multi-Process 3 in 1 DC 250 Amp Pulse MIG/Pulse TIG/ Stick We

    I have had my machine for a couple weeks now and it's now my goto machine. At first I was using the Lincoln chart settings to set things up. But once I started using the Synergic MIG mode, there is no need for charts or tables. I simply set the wire thickness and Amps (based on thickness of the material). So far it has been spot on. I can tweak the voltage to tweak things but have found the default settings seem to be perfect.

    If you want to know what the machine has set for the wire speed, just change mode and the unit will display the wire speed for a second or so as it switches to the new mode.

    I use the machine mostly for MIG as I have a 255EXT that I use for TIG if I am doing small delicate work. Don't get me wrong, I was repairing a small steel cage the other day that was made from 12 gauge wire and I was having a lot of trouble with the 255EXt TIG getting a clean arc. I switched over to the 251Si MIG and using .025 wire and 50Amps was able to make all the repairs.

    I'm still getting used to MIG and have get a lot more seat time to get those welds to look as good as some that I have seen. That said, I can through together a project very quickly with my 251Si.

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