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    The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Alright, here it is. The mothership. The one you've been waiting for. The thread to [eventually] end all welding gas pricing threads. Why, you ask? Instead of scrolling and reading through 100's or potentially 1000's of replies, some of them with too much yappity-yap-yap instead of simple, quick-n-easy to find information on the costs of welding gases and their locations which is not always known because people have to constantly remind others to fill that in their profile. In fact, I prefer for no one to reply to this first post, and simply use the tool I have put together, unless you are having technical issues with the tool.

    Let's get to it....what you need to know....
    1. You need to like to use the computer to utilize it, obviously. Not that it's difficult, I've tried to make it as easy as possible. But you need to wrap your head around the fact that you're either online on a computer/laptop or a smartphone in the year 2016. If you don't like utilizing technology, and clicking and this that or the other, then just ignore this post completely. Your time is better utilized elsewhere.
    2. This data-collection is based on [people, aka: YOU] using a quick online survey form that links ALL the responses submitted into an online spreadsheet that is paired-with it, that anyone can view.
    3. You don't need to submit a survey response to see the responses; such would be the case with a new weldor looking to purchase welding gasses for the first time.
    4. For those who have bought welding gasses, this data collection depends on YOUR input----the more surveys are submitted, the more the "Responses Spreadsheet" builds up for all others to view.
    5. I have created the survey form to include what I believe to be the most common welding gases that we the WeldingWeb Community (and most other communities that revolve around welding anyway) use. It is not meant to be an exhaustive list of every single possible welding gas available.
    6. The spreadsheet where the responses/info are auto-downloaded into can be opened on pretty much any internet browser, and the rows go in order of the time-stamp of the submitted surveys, going downward. The lower the row you view, the more recent it is.


    Here are the Links:

    Welding Gas Costs Survey Form

    Welding Gas Costs (Responses)


    ...and here are a couple of screenshots. One of a part of the short survey, and the other of the Responses Spreadsheet. Sorry they came out a little blurry. The actual links are obviously not like this.








    Now......what you don't need to know, but might want to, to easily navigate the spreadsheet when it reaches ginormous proportions....


    Question: If the speadsheet becomes thousands of lines long, how would it help me find the info I need?

    Answer: Since the spreadsheet is an online live document utilizing Google's "Google Sheets" software, you can utilize "Filtered Views" to quickly get the info YOU want. For example: You can easily specify YOUR state only, or whichever states YOU want, and the welding gas(ses) YOU specify, in the tank size YOU'RE looking for.

    It's pretty easy, just follow the following animated GIF. No I'm not making an Youtube video, lol.

    1. Click the little wine-glass looking icon, and click on "Create new temporary filter view". (click "Dismiss" on the little message that will appear in the little orange box).
    2. Then utilize the little arrows in the first yellow row to show the Filter Window to Check/Un-check things you want to see/not-see. You don't have to utilize all of them, just the ones YOU want to use to filter out unnecessary rows that contain info you don't want/need.
    3. That's it.


    Example Animated GIF: From the available responses submitted, I want to only see
    • LWS's in Texas
    • for 100% Argon
    • that were refilled for a customer-owned tank
    • for 125 ft³ tanks






    So what do you all say? Let's click that Survey link up top and start submitting all of our info in a way that be maintained from now on, in literally1 place. The more people submit their info, the better it will be for everyone! Let's face it-----in another couple of months, someone else is/was gonna start yet another welding gas thread, and you were gonna reply with your 2cents anyways. Might as well participate in a much better way right now, IMO. Can I get a sticky for this???? Giddy-up!
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Thanks for doing this. I entered my purchase of C25 from March of this year. Do you think there is any value to entering the date of the gas purchase? I have receipts going back a few years that I can enter if you want.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Thank you for taking the time to do this for everyone. I added my C25 purchase from May of this year and will add another entry next time I purchase acetylene.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by psacustomcreations View Post
    Thanks for doing this. I entered my purchase of C25 from March of this year. Do you think there is any value to entering the date of the gas purchase? I have receipts going back a few years that I can enter if you want.
    As far as the date, anything recent is good. "Going back a few years" would only be good if and only if a) the price is still valid and honored at that LWS at the time of the survey and b) one of the survey responses differs somehow from another entry of yours.

    For example: if the entry you just submitted was for a 125 tank of C25, but two years ago you purchased C25 fill for a 330 tank and the price at that LWS is still honored, then yes it would be a good submission at the time of the survey.

    It doesn't do anyone any good to see a response in the spreadsheet that you paid $15 for argon in 1987. That's not something that would legitimately be of any use to pretty much anyone looking to purchase argon in that area. Unless they still sell it for $15

    Also, I added C100 to the list in the survey, can't believe I forgot about that one.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Thanks to everyone who has submitted their info.

    I did delete the Seneca, SC row in the Responses Spreadsheet because the NAME of the LWS was not input. Please submit again with the NAME of the place. Please remember, this is to HELP people who are potentially wanting to buy welding gases. Of what good is it to those people if they see "LWS" in the name column? Thanks for your understanding. IF by some weird chance, the name of the LWS is actually "LWS", then I apologize and will re-insert that row.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Great idea, I put in all my gas purchase for the last year. I am looking forward to see what info pops up.

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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    While the time stamp is OK, an actual purchase month/year would be helpful. I added my two recent refills from last week, that could be old news in a year.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    I'll make this a sticky Oscar. I've been out almost all day.

    Let me know if you need anything from me on this. I'm gonna be pretty busy over the next week so if I don't get right back with you that's why.

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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve from SoCal View Post
    While the time stamp is OK, an actual purchase month/year would be helpful. I added my two recent refills from last week, that could be old news in a year.
    That's ok. They're supposed to be old news in a year. Because the whole point of this is to keep it open forever, so long as it doesn't reach some kind of storage space limit with Google. When you filter it by state, scrolling down to the current date should be relatively quick.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Very cool - added my fill costs.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Thanks for your entries. Its starting to look real good and it's interesting to quickly see what everyone else is paying in different areas.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Let's get some more surveys submitted! I know that there's more than 40 welders on this forum! Thanks to those who have contributed.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    I was paying $40 for 150cf of Argon. The last refill went up to $62. They even tried to give me a bottle with a neck ring. It said customer owned but also had the name of there old bizness on it. My LWS sold out to PRAXAIR. Is PRAXAIR good or bad?

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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Insaneride View Post
    I was paying $40 for 150cf of Argon. The last refill went up to $62. They even tried to give me a bottle with a neck ring. It said customer owned but also had the name of there old bizness on it. My LWS sold out to PRAXAIR. Is PRAXAIR good or bad?
    I don't see your entry.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Do me a favor please.... I just added another entry and screwed up. Thought I checked C25 and in looking at it, I see my purchase is appearing as 100% argon. Everything else is correct. That just needs to be changed to C25. Sorry about that.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Apparently my phone corrected austin to a austin a and there is no option for 60 cuft.

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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Purchased 80 cubic ft tank from Arc3 in Durham, NC for 155.92 and cost to fill with 100% argon was 13.16. I think the guy range me up wrong but not complaints from me!

    Added the fill cost to the sheet but no option to add just tank cost.

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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    most places sell tanks already full, that's why there's no option. Never hear of anyone wanting to buy a tank of welding gas at the LWS, that was completely empty. What you can do is post the cost of the tank + gas in one entry, and then in another entry, post the cost of the refill only, even if you didn't actually buy the refill. Using subtraction, a decently intelligent individual would be able to figure out the raw cost of an empty tank if necessary for what ever reason.

    While there may not be an option for a 60 cuft'er, it is also not meant to be an all-inclusive list. Simply picking something close should get someone new who has no idea what is what, into the ballpark. It's not for me to know what you're buying for my purposes. It's to help others near your area who may want to see what to get where, and near what price. Oh, and I fixed the "Austin".
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    most places sell tanks already full, that's why there's no option. Never hear of anyone wanting to buy a tank of welding gas at the LWS, that was completely empty. What you can do is post the cost of the tank + gas in one entry, and then in another entry, post the cost of the refill only, even if you didn't actually buy the refill. Using subtraction, a decently intelligent individual would be able to figure out the raw cost of an empty tank if necessary for what ever reason.

    While there may not be an option for a 60 cuft'er, it is also not meant to be an all-inclusive list. Simply picking something close should get someone new who has no idea what is what, into the ballpark. It's not for me to know what you're buying for my purposes. It's to help others near your area who may want to see what to get where, and near what price. Oh, and I fixed the "Austin".
    Thanks, I figured 55 was close enough. Just figured I would point out where it had gaps.

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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Thanks for taking the time to set this up Oscar! I will fill out my gas purchases later this week when I have my receipts handy!
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    FYI....When filling out my gas costs I noticed there's no option for 60cf tanks....I selected 75cf and made a note of 60cf in the cost section.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by strokedbronco View Post
    FYI....When filling out my gas costs I noticed there's no option for 60cf tanks....I selected 75cf and made a note of 60cf in the cost section.
    Yep, that will work. Its enough info that one can get a reasonable idea of what is available if they are searching in your area.
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Please update the spreadsheet to include #60 bottles..................
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    Bump. I just added a few recent bottles refills. Keep it going!
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    Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

    well - great info - re-affirming I am overpaying!!!

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