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    Idealarc 250

    Hello I just want a opinion on buying a Lincoln idealarc 250. It's the older round top and it's AC/DC. But he wants 400$ and won't go down. Is this a fair price, where i live don't see a lot for sale.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    That's not a terrible price. If it comes with leads and you want one of the best stick welders ever made, go for it. Make sure you weld with it first. Since I retired I restore these, done many and never had a major problem with any



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    Re: Idealarc 250

    He said it works, and he doesn't use it anymore. But he's leaving out of town for a week so I can't go look at it right away.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Think about it and keep looking on Craigslist or other sale listings for Lincoln Idealarc250 or Miller Dialarc250 machines. $300 would be a better price on one. Both are great welders.


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    Re: Idealarc 250

    I know, but there rare where I live, i check all kinds of for sale sites and don't see any,I know of another one that's close for sale but it's 2100$, must be one of them rare gold windings ones
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Well Bobby I would be at his place when he gets back with the $$$ in hand. Take her home and enjoy it. You won’t ever need another stick welder.


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    Re: Idealarc 250

    I see Idealarcs for sale around here from time to time, occasionally
    as low as $300. Very tempting.If they’re rare in your area,$400 seems like an ok price.
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    Idealarc 250

    I'd pick it up if I was you.
    I wouldn't let mine go for $400. It would cost too much $ to replace it.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    That's what I paid for mine a few months ago
    This one has not been restored, just in excellent condition
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    I'm probably going to buy it, here are the pictures on the ad. Name:  Screenshot_20180414-154449~2.png
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by Bobby Williber View Post
    But he wants 400$ and won't go down. Is this a fair price.
    After seeing those pictures
    I’d say No Way.

    I paid $600.00 for mine and it was completely restored down to every nut and bolt.

    But like my father in law used to say
    “ theres an azz for every seat”
    If you want it,
    Buy it. The welding cable is a plus.





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    Re: Idealarc 250

    If I'm trying to justify spending $400 for it:

    - leads worth at least $100
    - long heavy power cord
    - a new tombstone AC/DC is $550 (seriously)
    - it sits on a cart of some sort so I can at least move and the 400# beast until I can build a better one

    $400 isn't a stellar deal, but TX and LA are different than other areas. Hard to tell, but I think it's a - C code so it may have PFC caps. If you want it get it. I've spent $400 on a lot worse things.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    If I'm trying to justify spending $400 for it:

    - leads worth at least $100
    - long heavy power cord
    - a new tombstone AC/DC is $550 (seriously)
    - it sits on a cart of some sort so I can at least move and the 400# beast until I can build a better one

    $400 isn't a stellar deal, but TX and LA are different than other areas. Hard to tell, but I think it's a - C code so it may have PFC caps. If you want it get it. I've spent $400 on a lot worse things.
    I agree 100%, the leads are worth big bucks as they are long and don’t appear to be cracked. I’m guessing it’s a 70’s something model as it has the old style insulators around the output lugs but the new style polarity switch with DC+ in the center position. You can blow it out with air and clean and lubricate the amperage gear linkage and be good to go, or do a complete restoration if that makes you happy. I’m sure it will weld great whatever you do


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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by Pipeliner View Post
    - a new tombstone AC/DC is $550 (seriously)
    Correction, a new "tombstone ac/dc" is no longer tombstone shaped and is $2,500 or so. The ac/dc crackerbox is about $550 but is nowhere near the same machine.

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    Re: Idealarc 250

    I don't think is a bad deal, now it's just a waiting game for the owner to be back in town. I rather this than any new tombstone from Lincoln now. I'll probably tear it down and repair anything that's wrong with it and give it a good paint job. I don't know what diodes it has rather the old or newer style, but does any one have the numbers for the newer diodes just in case there are bad.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Don’t overthink this, I would bet you won’t need to repair anything. Just general internal cleaning and light lubrication. It will have the old style rectifier board, not the new plug style diodes.
    As far as painting goes if you have a powder coater in your area you might check on that process if you take the sheet metal to them. If the metal is straight without a bunch of dents it will look good and have a durable finish.


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    Re: Idealarc 250

    It's a working machine. Not a decoration piece. The patina tells its history. A good working welder. The leads are worth half the asking price. Stinger, ground clamp and wheel cart included. It's a no brainer.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Location (demand) plays a big part in pricing. I gave $350 for a repainted one with the tricycle cart and appx 100 ft (each) 1/0 leads in excellent condition. Welders are plentiful on the east coast.

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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldendum View Post
    Location (demand) plays a big part in pricing. I gave $350 for a repainted one with the tricycle cart and appx 100 ft (each) 1/0 leads in excellent condition. Welders are plentiful on the east coast.
    I concur about location. (Here in Oregon) I was watching a Lincoln Idealarc 250 (no cart) sit on CL for about 2 weeks at $250, then down to $225. That included leads. I didn't go after it, but it was tempting. I also see an older Dialarc currently listed for $350.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    don't let the dirty appearance throw you off. i had a couple of these machines at work and they looked like the've been bounced down a flight of stairs but worked perfectly. imvho if that machine welds i'd cough up the money and wouldn't look back.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    FWIW - I bought mine last year for about $400. It was an all day round trip to get it. I test welded with it first and it was fine. It wasn't a steal, but I have no regrets. Its is so smoooooth to weld with, I love it.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    I'm not worried about looks, hell a half mile from me there was a 67 redface for sale for 300$. I thought to my self even though it was to far gone to fix I'd have more money s worth in parts. It look liked it fell off the back of a truck with twelve different paint jobs on it. Got it home and the only thing wrong with it was a broken selector switch and rain was getting in the muffler, but not bad, the cylinder walls were good real smood just a few new valves and she fired right up. And with a new switch she was welding.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

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    Finally today I went and got it. It has 25ft leads and a big 15 ft power cord. The fan motor was replaced and is very quiet, and it has the old style diodes and no pf capictors. Now I'm just cleaning it up and getting it ready for paint, but the only thing I don't get is it's ocv on dc side is 17.5 volts, seems low to me but it welds fine or maybe it's my meter.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    Now you can sell the AC 225.
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    Re: Idealarc 250

    I agree the OCV is really low. Should be 70-80 volts


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