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  1. #1
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    Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    I’m a hobbyist that just bought a Lincoln Weld-Pak 180HD. The welder comes with a 50amp plug end but only 14ga. wire in the cord. I need to change the plug end but was wondering if I should just bite the bullet and change out the cord at the same time rather than making a bulky pig tail.

    Suggestions welcome - plus if I replace the cord is 12ga. recommend?

    Thanks

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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    The supplied cord is fine. The duty cycle of the machine allows for smaller guage cord as there is time for the cord to cool between welds.
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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    Its made that way for a reason, but if you want cut the plug off and put on what ever you want. It may void the warranty, but that's your call.
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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    Quote Originally Posted by MBG View Post
    I’m a hobbyist that just bought a Lincoln Weld-Pak 180HD. The welder comes with a 50amp plug end but only 14ga. wire in the cord. I need to change the plug end but was wondering if I should just bite the bullet and change out the cord at the same time rather than making a bulky pig tail.

    Suggestions welcome - plus if I replace the cord is 12ga. recommend?

    Thanks
    I would just make an extension cord using 12/3 or some 10/3 cord with the plug that matches your receptacle and then a 6-50r to accept the welder's 6-50P. You'll probably need an extension cord at some point
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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    Thanks for the replies. I did buy 15' of #12 three wire cord. Hesitant to open up the welder but will probably do it. With that big NEMA 6-50 plug that comes on it how do you guys deal with it?

    Thanks,

    Mike

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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    We install a 6-50 receptacle
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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    We install a 6-50 receptacle
    Yep. That's the easy option. You can buy premade extension cords then too.

    All my 220 stuff has the 3 prong range plug because that's what is common around me. Came in handy lately as I've had to get power from behind the oven. That causes scheduling conflicts with meals though.
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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    We install a 6-50 receptacle
    x2

    Most of my 240v devices use that plug and it is what Miller supplies for the plasma and mig welder I have. Even though my TIG and air compressor should be hard wired due to the large amount of current they can draw, they have the same plugs and are run on a 50A breaker.
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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    Maybe should review what currently have for 220V power. I've been a serious woodworker hobbyist for many years. My 220V tool are mobile since my garage is my shop too. The 220V power I use for my tools is an outlet with a 30Amp "dryer " type receptacle (wire from the service box to receptacle box is #6). I have a 25 foot #10 3-wire cord that plugs into this outlet and have a receptacle on the other end that plugs into the tools.

    After reading the responses here and reading a post on extension cords I'm thinking I have the following choices:

    1) Replace the cord on the welder to have a plug that matches my current extension cord receptacle (Ed's suggestion).
    2) Make a conversion "pigtail" for my extension cord.
    3) Replace my "dryer" style receptacle at the wall with the 6-50. Then purchase a 6-50 extension cord for the welder and a 6-50 plug for the end of my current cord. This would require me to plug/unplug the extension cords depending if I'm welding or woodworking.

    I'm siding with (1) for now and if I end up welding often maybe invest in (3) or even install a separate breaker and electrical run for the welder.


    Thanks,

    Mike

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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    Parallel off the dryer plug and add a welder plug. You can only use one at once. That way your not swapping out the plugs to work.

    Brand new Miller Multimatic 200 has 14 gauge cord. It is how they are. It is fine for a certain distance. Miller actually says all that is required up to 65 feet is a 14 gauge extension cord on 240 volt.

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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    My 2 cents - leave the power cord as is, then me being as anal as I am, I'd go with minimum 12 ga extension cord, more than 20ft, I'd do 10ga, up to 30ft or so.

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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    Oops, meant for another thread.

    This may work for some that want 6-50r from a 30 amp dryer without messing around.

    They are a little proud of it though. $70 ooch but worth it if you need it.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...030_em_1p_9_ti


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    Last edited by danielplace; 05-08-2018 at 08:24 AM.

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    Re: Welder Plug End and Cord Help

    It's a convenience area. Welders cone with a 115v 15 amp, 115v 20 amp, or 230v 50 amp plug....

    If they sold smaller welders with out a plug, since there are like 100 different plugs that they could use, half the people would burn there garage down putting on the wrong setup. That said, putting a 50 amp plug on a 20 amp machine isn't the smartest thing either. But code says you need to have the proper breaker for the machine anyways.

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