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  1. #1
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    Crossfire welders?

    Hi, I was looking at an ad for Crossfire Welders, They have a full range, But I was interested in their engine drive machine. 190 amp. Kohler 14 HP engine with a three year warranty on both the welder and engine Just gives duty cycle at 30% at 190 amps They seem good value, At just over$2000 Canadian About half the price of the Millar 185 Bluestar And very light weight at 220lbs. The down side seems to be they only put out Just over 2000 watts or 2500 surge on the generator Anyone know what nationality, or quality they may be? Thanks.

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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    I wouldn’t call it a great value,considering $2900-3200US will get you a
    10,000-11,000 watt/200-225amp@100% duty cycle Lincoln or Hobart,
    with Kohler 23Hp electric start,two cylinder engine.(dc weld,CC only)
    I’m not familiar with Crossfire,so maybe I’m missing something?
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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    when I add the 25% Canadian to Us dollars $3000 us = $3750 Canadian

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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Josey View Post
    when I add the 25% Canadian to Us dollars $3000 us = $3750 Canadian
    Yeah, that does make quite a difference.
    In my own situation,a 2000-2500 watt generator isn’t particularly
    useful for emergency power for the house.
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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    If I was looking for a small package like that, I'd probably just buy a good generator to run a normal inverter welder.

    That way you can get a known quality brand for both.
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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    What I liked about these welders , You are getting 200 amps DC For 200 lbs weight Which would do my welding around the farm I already have an old Ranger 8 and a thermal arc 181i which I use But the Ranger weighing 500 lbs isn't handy to move around which is why I was thinking about something lighter I do see Better small engine drive A GX 200 with a Honda Engine I think they are Italian and controlled by Red DE Arc the rental Company in the US and Canada
    Thanks for the replies,

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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    If you want something light, then a lawnmower engine and a modified car alternator is probably the lightest way to get it done. Slap an inverter on the starting battery if you need 120v power. Need to finish mine up....

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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    Do you get $2000.00 more in welding power over just buying a genset and running the 181i off of a genset?
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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    Quote Originally Posted by Broccoli1 View Post
    Do you get $2000.00 more in welding power over just buying a genset and running the 181i off of a genset?
    I agree with you. Generators are pretty cheap in comparison - Plug in the 181i to one and weld happy
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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    Quote Originally Posted by jpump5 View Post
    I wouldn’t call it a great value,considering $2900-3200US will get you a
    10,000-11,000 watt/200-225amp@100% duty cycle Lincoln or Hobart,
    with Kohler 23Hp electric start,two cylinder engine.(dc weld,CC only)
    I’m not familiar with Crossfire,so maybe I’m missing something?
    Good Afternoon All,

    Just came across this post and was hoping jpump5 if you could direct me towards where I'll snag one of those welders you mentioned. All I found was the Bobcat 250 going for $4489 off Cyberweld, add the conversion and we are looking at a a price tag of just over $5800 Canadian. Not too sure about the Crossfire either, but the $2000 is looking a touch better since I won't have to sell my home. Both my wallet and I will be very appreciative if you have a link you could share.

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    Re: Crossfire welders?

    Bought my Hobart at Tractor Supply. $2999.99
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