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  1. #1
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    Anyone do business with these people?

    I keep seeing this and some others on my F/B page and wonder if anyone has done business or knows anything about them. Their deals just seem way too good to be true.
    ashopfans.com

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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    I don't see a Paypal option so I'm opting out

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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    Good point I didn't notice that.

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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    Thanks mickg, that's pretty much what I thought. Going to bookmark that website you sent me to also. Thanks

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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mick120 View Post
    One thing you won't see on my website.....Friggin Paypal…...

    I don't care how handy they are, I'll never use them again.....never.
    Heavy handed bunch of deaf, ignorant A'holes.
    Sorry to hear that Mick. They have been good to me over the last 20+ years.
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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    That site is boleshiit. I checked my own sites and I'm hi risk and from the Russhin Ferderation. I can't even spell Russhin !

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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    No phone number

    No physical address

    No clue even as to what country it's in.

    No way

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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    It looks waaaaaay too similar to a website I came across when looking for a pair of ice climbing boots. The prices were way too low, too many items with totally different specs for the very same price, no phone, no email, no nothing... Beware! I don't recall if I even reported it...

    My suggestion is to stay away from that website.

    Mikel

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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    Mick are you under legal contract with paypal when you use it for customers and thus would going to court work in your favor?
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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    they do not give enough info to make sure they are legit. The prices are way too low to be real. You have to make an account in order to buy. I would say to stay away from them. It can't be legit.

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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    Price too good to be true often is so I did a little digging.

    The domain is registered using a Chinese registrar. The registrant is private so no telling who or where they are but I'd guess China. The domain was Create Date: 2018-06-23 so no telling how fly by night they may be. The domain lacks an MX (mail exchange) record so good luck emailing them when you don't get your stuff.

    The kicker for me is the HUGE number of currencies accepted. I'm surprised they don't also accept bitcoin.

    All the reviews I saw appear to be from prior to the domain creation date. Pure fiction.

    Looking at the SSL cert is even more worrisome. The site is hosted by cloudflare and is using a Subject Alternative Name (SAN) cert that has a large number of sites secured using the same cert. I'd be highly suspect purchasing from any of them.
    Common name: sni40962.cloudflaressl.com
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    Also the trust seals at the bottom are just images. A legit site takes you to a validation page. FAKE.
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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    Yeah sounds like you have a good reason to sue paypal. If you can prove you are the one being wronged on all aspects then you might be able to find an ambulance chaser type attourney that wants to get rich and famouse taking on Paypal. Hard to believe paypal is coming after you with collection calls that's pretty bad.
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    Re: Anyone do business with these people?

    PayPal is a great tool, but their refund policy is so GOOD that it allows those with not so legit intentions to take advantage of it. Get items, use them, return... Just state that they have not received all the items (hard to prove against that), etc. More or less just like Amazon's policies... I know quite a few people who buy several models from several brands of one particular item just to try them all, compare them by themselves and return the ones they don't like. Or buy one item, use it for the intended purpose once, and return it. Usually quality expensive items (tools or appliances) just because they don't foresee using them in the future.

    All this is great for the customer, not so much for the bussiness end.

    I know about that very well because I am also a member of Bladeforums and try to buy of the Exchange there. Most of the sellers don't want to ship international (to Spain) and those who do, only accept PayPal Friends and Family for two reasons, but the main one being that you cannot ask for a refund (since you are not paying for goods or services).

    For a bussiness this is not possible, so I fully understand your pain Mick. I hope finally it works on your favour.

    Mikel

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