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  1. #1
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    Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Hi,
    Just looking for opinions on which machine you'd rather run. I'm a rig welder and welding instructor. I teach most of the year bit still work in the summer in the oil and gas, and mining field with my truck. I was running a vantage 400 (loved this machine) but it just sat around most of the year. A guy offered me basically what I paid for the machine when I bought it new, and his 305g efi for it and I made the deal, and it was bye bye vantage. So now I have this ranger and am not terribly thrilled with it. So there's another guy that has a pipe pro 304 that does structural welding that's looking for more space on his truck and wants to trade me his pipe pro for my ranger. Ranger has 1700hrs, pipe pro has around 6000. I'm a lincoln guy, but everyone on my last job had a miller in the truck. What do you guys think?

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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Quote Originally Posted by drkhse View Post
    Hi,
    Just looking for opinions on which machine you'd rather run. I'm a rig welder and welding instructor. I teach most of the year bit still work in the summer in the oil and gas, and mining field with my truck. I was running a vantage 400 (loved this machine) but it just sat around most of the year. A guy offered me basically what I paid for the machine when I bought it new, and his 305g efi for it and I made the deal, and it was bye bye vantage. So now I have this ranger and am not terribly thrilled with it. So there's another guy that has a pipe pro 304 that does structural welding that's looking for more space on his truck and wants to trade me his pipe pro for my ranger. Ranger has 1700hrs, pipe pro has around 6000. I'm a lincoln guy, but everyone on my last job had a miller in the truck. What do you guys think?

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    I assume the Pipe pro is a diesel with that many hrs on it. Of the 2 machines and what you do with it I would trade for the pipe pro and never look back. At worst you are no worse off than you are now. Just run the pipe pro on some test pieces similar to your oil and gas work and if its better than the 305g then do it. It sounds like you probably should have kept your Vantage since it did what you needed it to. The 305g will be fine for what the other guy does with it and will give him the extra room he is looking for.

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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Well the PipePro 304 is basically a proven XMT with a 26hp 3 cylinder Kubota diesel driving the generator that powers it.

    The Ranger has a Kohler gas job (22hp or 23hp depending on Code#) and although far fewer hours than the PipePro I'd prefer diesel over gas.

    The Miller has a 60% Duty Cycle @ 300A whereas the Lincoln a 100% @ 305A but it's doubtful one would ever need to run at 100%.

    The Miller has more auxiliary AC power than the Lincoln. As much as 3000 watts more depending on the Ranger Code#.



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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Yes, I should've kept my vantage. But then again I wish I would've kept my sa200 too lol. But when he gave me that offer I really couldn't pass it up, he gave me $500 less than when I bought in New in Edmonton in cash and his ranger. with the way the industry is up here it's was sitting for 2 years. And I've had to leave the rig at home and run jobs by hand. Selling it gave me the money to buy a designated welding truck, and build a flatdeck for it, plus some extra toys ive been eyeing lol. It's a mix of structural and pipe that I do. And the ranger is just annoying to be around. And constantly be filling with fuel. Is it true that the pipe pro doesn't idle up until over 200 amps? If so that would be great as I run a lot of 1/8 on the smaller bore piping. I've also heard they eat boards like chips lol

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    Last edited by drkhse; 09-15-2018 at 11:19 AM.

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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Quote Originally Posted by drkhse View Post
    Is it true that the pipe pro doesn't idle up until over 200 amps?
    I know the earlier (non-inverter) Trailblazer Pro 350 can weld below 180A on low idle but don't see where the PipePro 304 is the same.
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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    I’ve never seen a Miller Pipe Pro. Years ago there were several pipe line welders on the Miller forum. They all talked very highly of the Pipe Pro.
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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Not positive but I do not think that the Pipepro 304 does not weld at idle speed. Also remember this machine idles at 2400 and weld speed is 3600 rpm.
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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Quote Originally Posted by leightrepairs View Post
    Not positive but I do not think that the Pipepro 304 does not weld at idle speed. Also remember this machine idles at 2400 and weld speed is 3600 rpm.
    No, the PipePro does not weld at low idle speed (I believe that's what you meant) and the 305G also runs at 3600rpm and has a 2400rpm low idle as well.
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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Does the pipe pro still have the out side connections so you can weld from supplied power and not run the engine?That was a big selling point when they first came out.

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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Yes, this particular machine has the ability to plug is as well

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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    Not a standard feature but an option so all machines may not have that ability.
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    Re: Ranger 305g efi vs pipe pro 304

    The Kubota engine will last forever if you keep the fuel filters changed and put decent fuel in it. I'd say as many xmt's are out there parts should be readily available. I'd go for it.

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