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    Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    Just wanting to hear opinions what works for you? best brands? Spring styles? Pros and cons , experiences , what to look for and what to avoid etc. Thanks.

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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    I would advise you to go to a welding supply and see which fits your hand the best. Any of the top names are good quality. Tweco, Jackson, Bernard, Lenco, etc. Tweco has a new ergonomic model out that I like, see what fits you best

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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    I’ve been using the Twister made by Lenco for several years now. I really like it for welding pipe.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    I like the Bernard Short Stub.
    They work well if you don’t
    burn the electrode all the way
    down to the holder, making it
    difficult to remove the stub.
    They also hold up well if you
    don’t use them for “tapping”
    pieces into position.


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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    Don't think I've ever purchased a new one. Seemingly all the ones I have are Tweco and guess I've never worn one out. I have one of those where you twist the handle to lock the rod but have never used it. Came with a welder I'd purchased along the way.

    I definitely like the 250A stinger as opposed to the 400A style based on size and weight. Using a lighter gauge "whip" of about 10' in length from your main welding cable lead makes a big difference too.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    i prefer the bernard short stub and an old school lenco that i used to pass my first welding cert. the lenco was an antique when i got it and must be about 60 years old. as of 6 months ago it still worked perfectly.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by CEP View Post
    I’ve been using the Twister made by Lenco for several years now. I really like it for welding pipe.
    The fifth on toward to the right is my favorite . the most common use in the pipeline jobs, i used it at home.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    The Martin Wells brand twister is the only one I’ve used. I have one on my Idealarc250. Took some getting used to

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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    If you're pumping 250 all day you need 2. 1 to cook with and 1 to cool off in a bucket of water.

    250 is also past the point of minimal contact area to the rod, you want all the contact you can get on the rod or you ain't sending 250 to the rod as the jaws heat up.

    Comfort comes in second to efficient at higher amperage or the stinger will roast your hand.

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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    I use the tweco high tong in 200 amp and 300 amp for heavier use .300 amp rarely gets used as a 5/32 7018 is about as big as I use anymore.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    https://store.cyberweld.com/elhol200...iABEgJLBPD_BwE

    This is my go-to. It's the style I learned on 20 years ago and still love them! I don't care for the tweeco 250amp ones. The thumb lever is too big and has a tendency to be in my way if I'm welding in a real constricted area. Just my personal preference tho.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by irish View Post
    The fifth on toward to the right is my favorite . the most common use in the pipeline jobs, i used it at home.
    I’ve beeen wondering about those, and the “V stinger” style holders. Ive read a bunch of reviews saying that the insulation comes off the handle, and then the hand starts arcing to the workpiece. Seems like a bad way to manufacture them, especially for on pipeline where an arc strike outside the weldzone could get you in deep trouble.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mmock4 View Post
    I’ve beeen wondering about those, and the “V stinger” style holders. Ive read a bunch of reviews saying that the insulation comes off the handle, and then the hand starts arcing to the workpiece. Seems like a bad way to manufacture them, especially for on pipeline where an arc strike outside the weldzone could get you in deep trouble.
    Never had one issue with them, tapped the handle in place it wont come loose, most folks dont do that, That where problem comes up. Once tapped in place, it's hard to come off.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    I have the 2 on the left in CEPs photo.
    I prefer the 250 amp tweco for most applications. I like the quickness and ease of electrode changing. If I have to run 3/16" rod, I'll go the Bernard short stub. I like the short stub for bending rods though
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    I’ve been curious about those V stingers too, but also read about the insulation wearing off the handle and arcing to the workpiece. I certainly drop my electrode holder on the ground from time to time. So if it’s easily abraded that would for sure become a problem. The tong style works fine for me most of the time, I like to be able to eject the rod stub easily without having to put a grill mark in my glove. Lol.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    I like the Lenco Duro holder, but the tong style works just fine. I have one of the twist type, but haven't tried it yet. Seems like it would be better for some uses.

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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?



    Esab handy 400, better than any tongs type IMO

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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mmock4 View Post
    I’ve been curious about those V stingers too, but also read about the insulation wearing off the handle and arcing to the workpiece. I certainly drop my electrode holder on the ground from time to time. So if it’s easily abraded that would for sure become a problem. The tong style works fine for me most of the time, I like to be able to eject the rod stub easily without having to put a grill mark in my glove. Lol.
    I have to make correction base on CEPpics, the fourth on on right its a t300 stinger. Which is not a V stinger. There is BIG differnce of them two. I prefer the t300 . and most lipeliners prefered stringer. V stringer have its own problem not like t300.
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    Re: Recommend Stinger / Electrode holder for 250 amps and below? Pros cons?

    Quote Originally Posted by irish View Post
    I have to make correction base on CEPpics, the fourth on on right its a t300 stinger. Which is not a V stinger. There is BIG differnce of them two. I prefer the t300 . and most lipeliners prefered stringer. V stringer have its own problem not like t300.
    Yup I was aware, the V stinger gets its name from the v shaped rod clamp, which seems like it would be pretty handy, some have said the jaws arc out and then have trouble holding smaller rods though. I like the design and heavy dutyness of it, but practicality is king, the tong style definitely works, and has for a long time. Would only be interested in one if it was an upgrade.

    I’d like to get a quality tong style holder, and run a 10ft or 12ft whip of that orange superflex cable to a quick connect to take some weight off the welding arm.
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