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  1. #1
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    Another plasma cutter selection....

    Requirements:
    Under $1k.
    Clean cuts (straight, round, holes, etc) on 3/16" and thinner steel, stainless, and Al.
    240V is fine.
    Hobby cutting, a little of everything, not a lot of anything. (exhaust, roll cages, brackets, seat mounts, reinforcement plates, etc).
    Sporatic use. It'll sit for a month, then get used to make 50 cuts, etc.

    Buying used around here (MD) is difficult at best. Craigslists prices for used show that people love their plasma cutters.

    So, I'm looking at new:
    Razorweld 45, Klutch P600iHD, and AHP Alphacut.

    My web search investigation is pointing to the Razorweld.

    Thoughts?

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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    I have the razor cut 45, been a real nice machine.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Primeweld primecut 60 very good plasma cutter under $800

    Were in Md. I am in De.
    www.georgesplasmacuttershop.com
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Thanks for the quick responses!

    Quote Originally Posted by mechanic416 View Post
    Primeweld primecut 60 very good plasma cutter under $800

    Were in Md. I am in De.
    Baltimore County.

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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    I have the razorweld cut 45 with the hypertherm style torch. ($150 extra)

    No complaints so far. Having the hypertherm torch just made it easier to source quality consumables locally but you’ll also pay more for hypertherm consumables.

    Jasics customer service is excellent.

    Talk to Gamble, he sells their products. I’m sure he’ll chime in.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    I have a Lotos LTP5000P I used it to make 3 cuts in 3/16.It does a great job and I am most satisfied with it. Before other bad mouth this read the reviews.Most are very favorable.If you buy it from Home Depo, you can get a 3 year warranty.I did.BTY, I payed $400.Ken

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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Don't know what you already own, I bought an Everlast TIG/Stick/Plasma awhile back, still happy with it. Well under 1k. I use it only for the plasma now because I got another TIG, but still worth it to have a backup TIG if my newer one ****s the bed. Bottom line, decent plasma machine.

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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    I have the razorweld cut 45 with the hypertherm style torch. ($150 extra)

    No complaints so far. Having the hypertherm torch just made it easier to source quality consumables locally but you’ll also pay more for hypertherm consumables.

    Jasics customer service is excellent.

    Talk to Gamble, he sells their products. I’m sure he’ll chime in.


    So the arc triggering problem you posted about using the Jasic with a table has been resolved?

    New torch Razorweld sent fixed the problem?
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Don't forget ESAB too.
    12v battery, jumper cables, and a 6013.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by freeweld View Post
    Thanks for the quick responses!



    Baltimore County.
    Your not that far away, if your looking for a plasma cutter let me know.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by mechanic416 View Post
    Your not that far away, if your looking for a plasma cutter let me know.
    Yes, I am.

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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by VPT View Post
    Don't forget ESAB too.
    Fair enough. Their 'intro' model seems to be the Cutmaster 42, a touch under $1000.
    I like their 4 year warranty, and it can run on 120V. Nice. Makes me think. But...otherwise for me, not sure it's 'better' than the Razorweld 45?
    Consumables cheaper? Torch better?

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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    I have the razorweld cut 45 with the hypertherm style torch. ($150 extra)

    No complaints so far. Having the hypertherm torch just made it easier to source quality consumables locally but you’ll also pay more for hypertherm consumables.

    Jasics customer service is excellent.

    Talk to Gamble, he sells their products. I’m sure he’ll chime in.
    Did you ever sort out the issues you were having with the consumables and torch?
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Replaced swirl ring with hypertherm one. All good now i believe.

    I think the stock razorweld one got damaged somehow i must have done something because the end that meets the nozzle was a little chewed up like it ran over some sandpaper. Not sure if it’s chesper material or what but hopefully that was it.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    My friend from Massachusetts took up skiing 24 years ago. I had skied at a young age, but as is typical of native Vermont adults, I gave it up. At the time, my son was entering the Junior Instructional Ski Program in school. Parent volunteers are heavily involved. Our school being the smallest, we were Friday afternoon at the closest ski area. 12 weeks a year Bruce would come from Mass. on Friday afternoon.

    He bought entry level equipment, hated it, bought better, outgrew it, bought better, repeat, repeat, repeat.

    Meanwhile, I bought second hand equipment from an old Austrian who pioneered skiing in VT. My Kestle GS 205 CM full out race skis were too much for me, but I believed then I was invincible. No skier was able to make more runs in a day than I.

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    Buy one good welder per discipline, save money over replacing "starter" welders. Your welder need not be new,
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    But this is for a plasma cutter. thats different.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by VPT View Post
    But this is for a plasma cutter. thats different.
    How so? One good plasma cutter is cheaper than two POS plasma cutters, then a good one. Research is cheap, buying junk is not.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    I have a welder. It's an AHP AlphaTig. It has been great. It's not a POS.

    I won't spend $2k for a plasma machine. After a year of random searches for used plasma machines, I have never been able to catch one.

    Hence, my original post.

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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Sadly you are a couple of weeks late. Amazon was having some good deals on the Thermal Dynamics Cutmaster 60i.

    I have a 40A L-Tec in my sig for sale. Good plasmas are hardly ever cheap new or used and it is very rare someone is selling one that they don't know it's true value that eould allow you to get a great deal. It can happen but it's not as common.

    Othet thing you can do is broaden you CL sesrch parameters by searching with Searchtempest and contacting sellers out of your area. You could use paypal gor payment and insurance agaist loosing your money on a bad deal if you get burned.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    I'm biased because I sell Razorweld, so the Razorweld cut 45 or vipercut30 are both inexpensive and reliable. Cut45 is 220v only and Vipercut30 is dual voltage just incase you need to be mobile.
    Or hard to go wrong with Hypertherm if you can afford it.

    What George (Mechanic416) sells is good too. He wouldn't put his name on something that isn't good.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    How so? One good plasma cutter is cheaper than two POS plasma cutters, then a good one. Research is cheap, buying junk is not.
    Sorry, I was referring to the end or your reply about older machines being better. That doesn't see to be the case much with plasma cutters. But I do agree better plasma cutters are better.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    My local supplier has the Powermax 30 XP for $1420.00 https://www.weldersupply.com/P/200/H...Powermax30Plas

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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Was going to suggest our Primeweld Primecut 60, 120/240 volt, IPT60 torch, CNC port, 3 year warranty but we have sold out again, along with the Primeweld AC/DC 225 tig and won't have any in till around December 2.

    The Razorweld 45 is a good plasma cutter for the money.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by VPT View Post
    Sorry, I was referring to the end or your reply about older machines being better. That doesn't see to be the case much with plasma cutters. But I do agree better plasma cutters are better.
    No, I guess I should re read my posts. No such thing as a good old 50 year old plasma cutter. That's not saying a used nice machine doesn't exist, but those not quite new ones I see are for sale because its owner is unhappy with it.
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    Re: Another plasma cutter selection....

    Quote Originally Posted by mechanic416 View Post
    Was going to suggest our Primeweld Primecut 60, 120/240 volt, IPT60 torch, CNC port, 3 year warranty but we have sold out again, along with the Primeweld AC/DC 225 tig and won't have any in till around December 2.

    The Razorweld 45 is a good plasma cutter for the money.
    George, How much is that Primeweld setup you've laid out?
    I've gone and got through my current project without a plasma (cut saws and grinders and blood and cussing. lol).
    So, it wouldn't be terrible to wait till early Dec.

    PM if that's better. Actually, I'll PM you. Thanks!

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