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  1. #26
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    Got the wc1 all straightened out .I have a few questions on wiring the relay what wires feed the coil side to activate the relay I understand the normally open normally closed sides I think lol?!
    Then in the revised schematic cr3 is circled with a wire connection dot on each side is there a connection there ?
    Forgive me for my lack of electrical background is lacking .Still a learning process and I enjoy working in these machines
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  2. #27
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    The reconfigured relay wiring in the WC-1 is what activates the new CR3 in the MM35 thru its new 14-pin receptacle pins "A" and "B".

    Yes, all the dots represent a connection. Where two or more components are involved it's not critical where these connections are made - at one component or another - so long as the circuit remains the same. What you DON'T want to do is reconfigure the unit wiring with a bunch of butt splices. All wires should terminate at a component - either existing or new.
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  3. #28
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    To explain a little further, the circle labeled CR3 represents the coil of the relay. The lead coming from the 14-pin "B" will go directly to one coil terminal of new relay CR3. The lead from 14-pin "G" would go to the other coil terminal of CR3 and one from there to any one of the 4 common connection points at the CR1 coil, gas valve coil, weld contactor (W) coil or pilot light whichever is most convenient based on accessibility of them and location of CR3.

    Oh, and the red lines represent the new wires and components.
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  4. #29
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    Were cr3 is circled and a connection is located on each side of the circled cr3 that would terminate to the com terminals on both sides of
    the relay and at b - g on the 14 pin amphenol ?
    And there is no connection at the coil terminals ?Only at NO,NC and the com terminals once the trigger is pressed the NO side closes to complete the circuit?
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  5. #30
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    Disregard my last post I just saw your latest post lol
    Using my phone mostly the website is different from my computer .
    Thanks D
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  6. #31
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    Ok so I am having a couple issues on the wc1 the 5 amp fuse keeps blowing ,if i disconnect the lead that was moved it doesnt blow the fuse and the relay activates when the trigger is pulled and the drive motor turns .\
    Screwdriver is touching the the wire that was relocated and the one that i removed that stopped the fuse from blowing ,Any thoughts ?Name:  IMG_0313[1].jpg
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  7. #32
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    Post #14, step 1) Remove 3/4 jumper from terminal strip 1T.
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  8. #33
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    I know its been a while but just wanted to keep u guys posted on the upgrade .And a big thanks toDuaneB55 for helping me out and taking the time to walk me through the process thanks again Everything seemed to work and spoolgun welding is a new ball game for me but like it so far I got it it a little hot needless to say I got a bag of tips already to go lol.
    Does the drive motor usually run on the 35 when the spoolgun is triggered its not a big deal to me I just disconnected the mig wire role?

    Im also going to start a new thread on a machine I just picked up 1952 Lincoln Sa 200 Wisconsin powered machine!
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    Double check your modification wiring to the new relay CR3. One set of contacts is meant to interrupt the activation signal to CR1 that controls the main drive motor.
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  10. #35
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    Re: Miller spoolmatic1 on a millermatic 35

    Thanks Duane I will check it out
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