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  1. #26
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    Re: Looking for advice on an upcoming project

    Quote Originally Posted by John T View Post
    I assumed paint=/powder
    - 75 bucks

    I didn’t see any other price listing for power coat


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    Ohh ok, no, those gates are costing me $500 to Powdercoat. Still a good deal considering how long it'd take me to paint.

    The guy I use has ovens that are 30+ ft long

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    Re: Looking for advice on an upcoming project

    Quote Originally Posted by BD1 View Post
    MetalMan23 , that's a awesome breakdown. You are right , the layout takes time for sure and minimizing waste of material too.
    Yeha I've done it a few times, where it'd take me 4-6 hrs just sitting at my table figuring all the picket spacing and other lengths, especially if you're doing a set of stairs, that turns into 8+ hours just sitting at a desk, doing math

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    Re: Looking for advice on an upcoming project

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post
    What kind of hinges will you be using? Will you be setting the posts? If you can swing getting the materials yourself it'd be better.

    Is is just a basic tubing frame.? Any pickets? How tall?

    I typically price things the way shovelon suggested, except when I'm doing gates, then it's always a bit more.

    I have 3 solid days into fabricating these gates, 1 day to drive down and measure opening, tomorrow I'll be transporting them to get powder coated, then I'll have to deliver, for the customer to install,

    You have to consider all of that when you do a price,

    This is an example of how I would price your job, (assuming it's a basic 1.5x1.5 tubing frame)

    materials
    4 pcs 1.5x1.5x14ga @ $45ea =$180

    1 pc 3x3x1/4 @ $85

    Hinges $300(the hinges I use are expensive)

    Paint$75

    Materials total: $640

    Add 20% $768

    Labor

    Fabrication:

    Measuring job: 3 hrs

    Math layout:4 hrs (this is important, don't just think you're going to jump straight into fabricating without taking some serious time figuring all the dimensions, pickets spacing, etc)

    Cutting frame pcs: 1hr

    Layout frame pcs/square up: 4 hrs

    Weld frame pcs: 2 hrs

    Grind welds: 1 hr

    Weld hinges on: 1/2hr

    Cut pickets: 2 hrs

    Cut and weld caps on posts: 1hr

    Weld pickets: 5 hrs

    Paint gates: 6 hrs

    Load onto trailer: 1 hr

    Transport to job:2 hrs

    Total fab: 32.5 hrs x(

    Install

    Digging holes for posts: 3 hrs

    Setting posts, 1 hr

    Welding hinges onto posts 2 hrs

    Hired help for day : $200

    Total install is 6hrs +$200 for helper


    So with a theoretical hourly rate of $75 (which is low) this job would be quoted out at labor:$3,187.5

    Add 10% $3,506.25

    Materials : $768

    Total price$4,274.25

    That's just a rough idea, having no details about the gate you're to build
    Nice breakdown Phil! Yes there is always more to consider when you wrap your head around the job and then put the numbers on paper.
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    Re: Looking for advice on an upcoming project

    Quote Originally Posted by shovelon View Post
    Nice breakdown Phil! Yes there is always more to consider when you wrap your head around the job and then put the numbers on paper.
    Thanks, it's too easy to forget something, and find out you only made $20/hr on a job nothing worse than that, except losing money of course

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    Re: Looking for advice on an upcoming project

    Phil how does the cost to fab your own fences compare to the cost of pre fab'd fence panels?

    Just cost of materials not time for welding etc?
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    Re: Looking for advice on an upcoming project

    Quote Originally Posted by MetalMan23 View Post
    This is an example of how I would price your job, (assuming it's a basic 1.5x1.5 tubing frame) ...
    Nice breakdown, thanks for posting it.

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    Re: Looking for advice on an upcoming project

    Quote Originally Posted by N2 Welding View Post
    Phil how does the cost to fab your own fences compare to the cost of pre fab'd fence panels?

    Just cost of materials not time for welding etc?
    I'm not sure to be honest, I know prefab is a lot cheaper, there's aluminum and steel options, but you can't really customize it like you can steel, also people like to be able to say "wrought iron" and feel like it's worth paying more for

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    Re: Looking for advice on an upcoming project

    Material selection can be big on jobs like this. Figuring out if 20’ 24’ 40’ etc will minimize waste but can you handle said material. If the material is supplied by the customer I’d make sure it’s decent and not some warped or rusty crap that will take forever to make useable
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