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    Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    So i am going to pull the trigger on the powermax 45 xp but I’m not certain which bundle to go with.

    I need the CPC port, and will be using it with a Langmuir crossfire that i intend to try and upgrade to have a Z axis and machine torch down the line.

    At the moment it only has a mount for a hand torch.

    Ideally I would like to have a torch for hand cutting and another torch for the plasma table. This is making me lean towards this bundle below. But why does it seem too good to be true that it comes with two torches? The 15 degree torch is actually ideal i think because it aims the torch hose up and out of the way.

    What’s going on that it cost $450 to buy the hand torch separately but this one comes with two for
    Barely any more money?

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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Edit Post. I misread your post. Ya not sure does that mean either or, or both.
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Quote Originally Posted by TJS View Post
    Edit Post. I misread your post. Ya not sure does that mean either or, or both.
    After further reading into it, it’s both. It just seems too good to be true that for $2130 you get two torches and a cpc port but only the cpc port is $2080.

    The machine torch kit is not bargain either. It’s basicallt the same price to buy the machine torch separate assuming you intend to buy a hand torch as well. I’m a small operation I only have space/funding for one machine which makes that quick connect very enticing as well.

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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Fired up my pm85 for the first time in years when i fired the machine torch on my table. I have an htp 380 for hand cutting since 2003 and still kicking. Yes the regular torch for the hypers are not cheap.
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    85?? That’s a big machine lol.

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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    85?? That’s a big machine lol.

    Cutting bank vaults in your shop?
    The PM85 is just for my plasma table. If I cant make money with the table maybe cutting vaults is in my future.
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    I'd like to have a separate machine torch for my table as well. Or even just a second hand torch.
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Quote Originally Posted by VPT View Post
    I'd like to have a separate machine torch for my table as well. Or even just a second hand torch.
    At the moment i don’t have a height control so buying a machine torch is kind of silly. But i would like the 15 degree torch as kind of a pseudo machine torch. I use my table as a hand cutting plasma table too to save space. So being able to just snap in the other torch is a home rub.
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    There is a package price for a 45xp with a machine torch and a 75 degree hand torch. That is the one I would recommend. If you plan to use a hand torch on your Langmuir machine keep in mind that the CPC port will not start / fire a hand torch (the 75 degree and the 15 degree hand torches are fired via hand trigger switch), so to use one of those torches on a machine means you will need to read the wiring diagram in the service manual and hack into the internal machine wiring. The CPC port (pins 3 and 4) will fire a machine torch (no trigger switch, designed for machine cutting).

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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Wow. That is some great info right there Jim.
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    I ordered the 75/15 torch kit and I guess I will have to figure it out to make it work for now.



    The machine torch/hand torch combo is no bargain really...It’s the same price roughly as the hand torch plus the machine torch separately. Maybe $100 cheaper. Kind of strange the 15 degree torch is only an extra $50.

    Jim, i assume doing what you stated to use the hand torch voids the warranty?
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    I caved and decided to order the machine torch with hand torch kit...


    What does the remote pendant do? I see it is included and its not a cheap item.
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    The remote pendent is simply an on/off switch for using the Powermax plasma with a machine torch on non-cnc machines such as a track burner or a portable pipe cutting machine. This combination with the hand and machine torches is often used with those types of machines. For your cnc machine....which controls the start and stop of your Powermax there is no need for a remote pendent. Jim Colt



    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    I caved and decided to order the machine torch with hand torch kit...


    What does the remote pendant do? I see it is included and its not a cheap item.

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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    The remote is momentary on or continuous cutting with it's dual mode switch. Works with Thermal Dynamics cpc too
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Not sure if it comes with the pendant. One website says it does, another says it doesnt. Part number 088123.

    I picked up the supplies to make my own CPC plug but I can salvage the pendant I guess if it comes with it for parts instead.
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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Powermax 45xp part number 088123 comes with a machine torch, a hand torch, CPC port installed and a remote pendant. Any questions about Hypertherm part numbers can quickly be answered by a call or email to Hypertherm customer service or tech service! If you have questions about wiring to the CPC port I'll be happy to help out. jim.colt@hypertherm.com Jim Colt



    Quote Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest View Post
    Not sure if it comes with the pendant. One website says it does, another says it doesnt. Part number 088123.

    I picked up the supplies to make my own CPC plug but I can salvage the pendant I guess if it comes with it for parts instead.

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    Re: Powermax 45 purchase - what’s the best move here?

    Quote Originally Posted by jimcolt View Post
    Powermax 45xp part number 088123 comes with a machine torch, a hand torch, CPC port installed and a remote pendant. Any questions about Hypertherm part numbers can quickly be answered by a call or email to Hypertherm customer service or tech service! If you have questions about wiring to the CPC port I'll be happy to help out. jim.colt@hypertherm.com Jim Colt
    Was able to get everything working thanks!

    Do you recommend cutting at full amperage? After only a few simple shaped test cuts I seem to have blown out the nozzle already on the machine torch which is rather surprising. The electrode is fine.
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