240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option
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  1. #1
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    240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    hello all,

    i'm looking for a MIG to compliment my trusty Miller Thunderbolt AC/DC box. Ideally, it would be capable of handling things up to 3/16" or so (from there I can use the stick box). running off 240V is a good thing and I'm more of a transformer over inverter type.

    i'm looking for something new though I certainly won't pass up a good used model. I would greatly appreciate recommendations on good, affordable, preferably made in the USA welders. thanks!

    O.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Hobart 230.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Quote Originally Posted by pat h View Post
    Hobart 230.
    thanks! that's a great machine but probably too much for my purposes.also, it's pretty pricey ($1500 list price)

    O.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    if you want a good transformer you may as well buy used, and therefore brings hobart 230 back into budget?

    nothing is "too much for purposes" - you can always downscale a big mig, but you can never upscale a small mig.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    In the "affordable" compact 230 volt transformer based units, for 3/16" and thinner, Lincoln's PowerMIG 180C is probably the best unit I've ran. Hobart's Handler 190 and 210 MVP are good units too.


    The above mentioned Ironman 230 is definitely a good unit too. Cyberweld sells is for a little under $1400.
    ESAB Migmaster 250
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    HH125EZ - nice little fluxcore only unit


    Maxstar 150 STH - very nice

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    I have a Power Mig 180 dual voltage at work, have only run FCAW-S, I like it.
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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    I have a Lincoln Pro-Mig 180,my friend has a Hobart Handler 190,going on 3 years both have been great. There's a NIB Handler 190 on Dallas Craigslist today for $400.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    I liked my Hobart Handler 190. or Find a nice used Miller 211 (transformer model) or a Hobart 210MVP. But honestly the best bang for the buck right now is probably the Harbor Freight Migmax 215. Yes it is an inverter, yes it is Harbor Freight, but the 1 year risk free trial is iron clad. Buy it and if you don't like it take it back...really simple. Lots of great reviews, Terry (shovelon) from this board was a beta tester, and AvE did a really nice tear down video where he dubbed it a real bargain.
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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    I agree. HH190 is a fine bridge gap. It fills in what you can't do with stick

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Quote Originally Posted by Louie1961 View Post
    I liked my Hobart Handler 190. or Find a nice used Miller 211 (transformer model) or a Hobart 210MVP. But honestly the best bang for the buck right now is probably the Harbor Freight Migmax 215. Yes it is an inverter, yes it is Harbor Freight, but the 1 year risk free trial is iron clad. Buy it and if you don't like it take it back...really simple. Lots of great reviews, Terry (shovelon) from this board was a beta tester, and AvE did a really nice tear down video where he dubbed it a real bargain.
    The HF Vulcan MigMax215 is on sale right now. My shop next door neighbor fried his Miller and borrowed my MigMax215. He returned it and went out and bought two of them for himself. Burns .025 wire better than the Miller ever did. Keeps promising to bring me a case of Modelo Negra for turning him onto that mig welder.
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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Quote Originally Posted by oifla View Post
    thanks! that's a great machine but probably too much for my purposes.also, it's pretty pricey ($1500 list price)

    O.
    Remember when you have more machine running at lower amps you have more duty cycle. With a smaller machine running near maximum isn't the best. You can't use amps you don't have. Choose wisely.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Take a look at HTP. I have an older HTP MIG 240. Running strong since 2003 with no issues. It is a transformer machine.
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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    HTP 2400 and never look back and never need to upgrade again.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Looking for a "transformer over an inverter" welder and "preferably made the USA" pretty well limits you to Hobart. (Those are the reasons I went with Hobart myself.). Neither Miller nor Lincoln make a homeowner-sized transformer welder anymore. The best bang for the buck option is probably the Hobart 210MVP. It will handle the 3/16" you asked for. Get a factory-refurbished one from their site and you can save a few dollars.

    If you decide you can go offshore, the only one I would consider is an HTP.
    Last edited by gatemaster; 02-13-2019 at 08:02 PM.
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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Quote Originally Posted by thegary View Post
    HTP 2400 and never look back and never need to upgrade again.
    Until you try the HTP ProPulse 200 or 300. Blows my (previously owned) Millermatic 211 inverter out of the water, and that thing has a sweet arc! Granted, I'm only a hobbyist and only weld from time to time, but when I do weld its just solo nice. Next up is dual shield, and a little aluminum through the 8ft aluminum specific mig gun. Dont make me post a pic of my sig!!!
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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    thanks everyone, good ideas, all much appreciated

    i'm really wanting to save a few $ and get something used as a first option but will keep an eye out for sales on some of the models listed here.

    O.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Here's the website for refurbished Hobart equipment. You can save a few dollars getting one from here. They are usually out of stock. You have to look frequently and be quick when one shows up. You can sign up for e-mails for when stuff becomes available. This is where I got my 210MVP. It had a few very light scuffs on the gun. Other than that I couldn't tell it from a new one. The cabinet was perfect.

    http://www.hobartweldshop.com/recond...lasma-cutters/
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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    Quote Originally Posted by gatemaster View Post
    Here's the website for refurbished Hobart equipment. You can save a few dollars getting one from here. They are usually out of stock. You have to look frequently and be quick when one shows up. You can sign up for e-mails for when stuff becomes available. This is where I got my 210MVP. It had a few very light scuffs on the gun. Other than that I couldn't tell it from a new one. The cabinet was perfect.

    http://www.hobartweldshop.com/recond...lasma-cutters/
    That is how I bought my Hobart 190 a couple years ago. They were out of stock so I signed up with my email. Was notified one was available within an hour of selling my Hobart 175 (still working great after more than 10 years). There was nothing that looked used with the HH190 when it arrived. I've used it a bunch for autobody and some exhaust work since, hasn't missed a beat and works great.

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    Re: 240V mig recommendation - best bang for buck option

    A used ESAB Migmaster 250 might be a contender also.

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