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    Newbi Question About flow gauge

    So i just hooked my mig up to gas as i've been just using flux. The flow meter is the steel ball supposed to stay up all the time or just when the trigger is pulled and welding?
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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    The ball should rise when gas is flowing, settled when no flow.

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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Thanks! Wasn't sure so it had me checking for leaks which i found 2 small ones at solenoid so that was good at least.

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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by gearheadmike View Post
    So i just hooked my mig up to gas as i've been just using flux. The flow meter is the steel ball supposed to stay up all the time or just when the trigger is pulled and welding?
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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Whats wrong with air gas?

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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by gearheadmike View Post
    Whats wrong with air gas?
    If you have to ask, you might have a good location near you. Or it may be a "typical" location where they make up for their bulk large-volume sales by charging the DIY welder heaps more than they need to pay for gasses, and you may not know it.
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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    There's only 2 places that sell gas/welding supplies near me so not much of a choice haha. Air gas i paid $270.54 After state and county tax and a 4.50 hazmat fee. And the fill up.
    It's $36 to refill the #80 tank. The other welding store fussed when i asked for a 80 tank and wanted to lease me the tank and said its $73 Refill.

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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by gearheadmike View Post
    There's only 2 places that sell gas/welding supplies near me so not much of a choice haha. Air gas i paid $270.54 After state and county tax and a 4.50 hazmat fee. And the fill up.
    It's $36 to refill the #80 tank. The other welding store fussed when i asked for a 80 tank and wanted to lease me the tank and said its $73 Refill.
    You see that Airgas lettering on the neck? They legally own that bottle and other suppliers may scoff at refilling it. When you are done you rightfully have to give it to Airgas. Only a no name ringed bottle is customer owned. So they got ya. I would return it for a refund and buy a bottle on line.
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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    For instance here is an online offering with free shipping and no tax if you are out of that state. $187.

    And notice there is no owner lettering on the neck ring. https://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.c...xoCIjgQAvD_BwE
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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Wow i can't believe i missed that!? I'll be calling them monday to talk to them about that! But he did say when i go in for a refill all it actually is is a swap for another tank.He said that way i'd never get stuck paying & waiting to having the tank re certified/pressure tested. plus there's only 2 refill areas around me and they are the cheapest.

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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    $36 isn't too bad, but it could be less. I pay that much to refill a 125ft³ tank. But then again, it all varies by location. So long as they keep the price right around there, it's no too bad, because others have it a lot worse.
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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    The air gas around here isn't to bad, good employees anyway, I hve bottles from many the price difference is not worth changing, I will say the so. Wisconsin place that moved down here which I delt with the last 10 years and liked, got a guy that just plain boldface lied to my face, I will never buy from Welders Supply again just because of the little pimp salesman, it's all location

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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Yeah location! where i'm at its deal with what you got or tough luck. The guy's here seemed nice but it was my first time and i was giving them money soo we'll see haha

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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by gearheadmike View Post
    Wow i can't believe i missed that!? I'll be calling them monday to talk to them about that! But he did say when i go in for a refill all it actually is is a swap for another tank.He said that way i'd never get stuck paying & waiting to having the tank re certified/pressure tested. plus there's only 2 refill areas around me and they are the cheapest.
    They should have customer owned bottles to swap as well. As long as your bottle is still in date it should not be an issue. At least that is the way it works in SoCal.
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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    I pay $60 for a refill on an 80 tank at my local air gas. The employees there are super cool and most of them do know there stuff.

    Everything in the store does seem to be priced at the very upper end of reasonable. There’s no good deals but you also aren’t getting ripped off.


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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    as long as the bottle was hydro tested in the last 10 years there is no charge... they are only certified every 10 years and that hydro test is usually $20-$28 I end up with alota bottles that were left in sheds etc.. for well over a decade like the stuff I got last February (that valentines day deal where I hauled off the old dodge diesel and found all the 20 year old brand new Miller stuff under the camper shell... ended up hauling off a shed full of Argon, oxygen and C-25 bottles all 125s from the same place and all dated 1996) have swapped bottles throughout most of the western USA same deal hydrotest price has went up 15 years ago it was only $7.50

    BTW when ya do swap owner bottles ALWAYS look to see what the last certification date was stamped on the bottle... I've had em try to give me ones that were within a year of expiring before.. no big deal as I usually swap em again within a month or two but still I like a lil cushion..
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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by TylerSteez View Post
    I pay $60 for a refill on an 80 tank at my local air gas.
    Then you get ripped off.

    The standard price for a tank fill on 80 is $16. Anyone charging more is taking you to the bank. Here we see 3 different stores around me. Airgas being the most expensive, yet still half what you paid. The second being slightly less, and the third being the actual uninflated price of an 80 cu tank.


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    Re: Newbi Question About flow gauge

    Quote Originally Posted by One1 View Post
    Then you get ripped off.

    The standard price for a tank fill on 80 is $16. Anyone charging more is taking you to the bank. Here we see 3 different stores around me. Airgas being the most expensive, yet still half what you paid. The second being slightly less, and the third being the actual uninflated price of an 80
    Wow I really do get ripped off then, jeeze. Looks like I’m driving further for my refills from now on haha

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