[Insaneride]

Who here can tell me what a ground rods real purpose is?

First, polarization. Safety.

Second, ground fault whatever that is.

Third, revenue? I don't know about that one.

Fourth, referances point.

Polarization is .... Edit....

 

[Insaneride]

Ok, where does the electricity go, what pulls it in to the earth?

Where does it go after its used? Modern physics has proved that the Ether doesn't exist but before that was proved, that's were it went.

A negatively charged cloud can pull lightning to the Earth. Think straight polarity. A positive charged cloud can draw lightning from the Earth. Think reverse polarity.

Edit: change entropy to ether

 

[Insaneride]

I under stand about lighting and the earth because earth is a part of the circuit, earth - or + and cloud -or +. Man mad electricity is different circuit than lightning or natural sources of electricity, hot legs output from the transformer, neutrals bring back to the transformer, kinda like two welding machines, it always goes back to its source and no other circuit.

Ben Franklin may disagree. I don't know. Clouds can emit or pull electricity up or down depending on potential between clouds. Two inverter or synced welding machines can be parallel for more amps but negative electrons flow from negative to positive provided a potential differential.

Think the atmosphere or ionosphere is a capacitive plate. The Earth is the common plate. There's a potential differance and the result is a capacitor waiting to be discharged. It's outlandish but the earth spins, causes friction and there's static thru out.

I heard a tall story : a small island was made into an great big capacitor. They used a Mylar tent for the positive plate. It was used for very low frequencies. To communicate short wave around the globe or somewhere. They drove trucks around the cap island. The truck drivers had to jump out of the trucks to avoid discharge at their groins and I think they ment electrical. The Earth is ground or dirt as the op of that tall tell told me.

 

[Insaneride]

Electrons must travel to open valence shells in atoms or molecules which do not have closed/complete valence shells. However which way the electrons "feel" the electric field and ultimately subject to the Lorentz force is what will determine the ultimate path they end up taking, until they end up occupying incomplete valence shells in atoms/molecules at their destination.

Electrons don't feel. I get it tho. Aether
Whenever I lived in the rheo grande valley, they said, " Laredo was the peyote_capital of the world". For some reason, two buttons wasn't enuf. The medicine man didn't want give me the second button but I convinced him with the rest of my ice cooler of lone star , jackdaniels and coke at south padre island fiesta.

My best memory of Laredo, the cantina across the Falcon dam. At 16. I heard stories about the mission under the water. The cantina only had one lady. Here in nv, 10 or 20 hookers line up. Good thing she didn't speak English because I was impolite, I said, only one? God bless her.

 

[Insaneride]

I use wrist grounding straps. You can also take up smoking as the carbon from the smoke that gets on your fingers will help to bleed off the static charge. IBM learned this by accident. Techs that smoked had a lower failure rate of parts from ESD and they discovered that it was because the carbon in the smoke help to discharge any static from their body.

I think IBM learned that without a resistor a wrist band can electricute a person also. No?

 

[Insaneride]

Electrons must travel to open valence shells in atoms or molecules which do not have closed/complete valence shells. However which way the electrons "feel" the electric field and ultimately subject to the Lorentz force is what will determine the ultimate path they end up taking, until they end up occupying incomplete valence shells in atoms/molecules at their destination.

Ok but, your starting to sound like WackyMaC.

 

[Insaneride]

A static wrist band is for protecting Integrated Circuits IC's. The resistor is for protecting the wearer from being the least resistance to ground. If zapped while wearing a wrist band on opposite wrist, an undischarged capacitor could travel thru your heart.

 

[Insaneride]

Well..... I doubt the capacitor would travel that way unless you really had some huge electo magnetic pulse going on!!!! but you'd sure get a giga-jolt of electrons traveling around the chest area

Well I'm not going try and find out I've felt electrons from capicitor's and one thing I can tell you is, they don't completely discharge after getting zapped. Although it's only theory, I've been bitten by a coil. The caps were discharged. It would seem that the coil held a magnetic field and got me good. I used an led and resistor to bleed one side of the coil to continue.

 

[Insaneride]

Well, I mean, this is where the truth leads to. It's called science. It's gotten us this far, so I'll believe it.

I was joking because it seemed like you were saying electrons can feel and have a mind of their own. I never heard an explanation like yours saying the electrons felt like going to holes in valence bands except when dealing with semiconductors like Germanium and Silicon. In fact , it was a lot like a semiconductor approximation class I took years ago but Lorentz was a totally different class.