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To clarify our position on this subject, we decided awhile back that instead of completely eliminating any and all types of political discussion we created this specific thread. This allows ppl to have an enterchange of thoughts without it effecting the rest of the site. We try very hard not to overmoderate things here. Heavy handed moderation tactics often leave a bad impression on a lot of ppl (myself included) as well as creates more work for us.

But to be clear, free speech ends at the front door when someone agrees to the terms of use when they join the site. If this thread were ever to pose a problem for the site in general, it would be history.

We think this as well as the religious thread provides an outlet for those who like discussing such things to do so while still being a contributing member of the site in general. At the same time, if someone was to join the site solely to troll this thread or post copy paste rhetoric to the OT section with the intent to either cause trouble or deciminate an agenda laden message, they won't be around for very long.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming lol
 
The right to "free speech" does not include the right to have some one else provide you with the platform (this forum for instance) from which to make that speech. This forum is in essence some ones "private property" and they have every right to decide (acting thru their representatives the moderators) what will or will not be allowed. So if you go getting yourself banned (or simply have one of your posts deleted) don't go kidding yourself that you've had any of your "rights" violated.
 
I love guys that come to a welding forum and want to argue politics.

I am particularly interested in politics especially this year

But I will be damned if I'm going to argue with anyone about it.

I'd rather chew my own foot off.


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The right to "free speech" does not include the right to have some one else provide you with the platform (this forum for instance) from which to make that speech. This forum is in essence some ones "private property" and they have every right to decide (acting thru their representatives the moderators) what will or will not be allowed. So if you go getting yourself banned (or simply have one of your posts deleted) don't go kidding yourself that you've had any of your "rights" violated.
That about sums it up right there.
 
Whew! Step away from the bottle.

sorry about that, kinda got overdone. it wasn't a bottle, it was cans. was at the neighbors, and his wife kept bringing them to us w/o even asking. plus there was a bowl of pretzels that kept me thirsty. i'll tell you what, it's nothing but broccolli and chocklate milk tonight. :) anyway, yeah gary, i was probably over suspicious. i'll try to be more careful
 
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Hillary just keeps getting in the news.
"An explosive announcement Thursday revealed the U.S. Justice Department’s inspector general has launched an investigation into the FBI’s handling of Hillary Clinton’s use of a private, unsecured email while she served as secretary of state."
 
Like Harry said "If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen"!!
Mike
 
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Infer can mean suggest.

adding something...
Obummer, our 'Pen and Phone', president has been a very busy boy.... Executive Order — Amending Executive Order 11016 to Update Eligibility Criteria for Award of the Purple Heart, Executive Order — Designating the World Organisation for Animal Health as a Public International Organization Entitled to Enjoy Certain Privileges, Exemptions, and Immunities, Executive Order — Exclusions from the Federal Labor-Management Relations Program, Executive Order — Recognizing Positive Actions by the Government of Sudan and Providing for the Revocation of Certain Sudan-Related Sanctions. Second one listed above is probably the worst.... he who controls the food... controls us.
 
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Don't know if anyone caught this...I would have missed it if I didn't have a brother into it who asked us to donate some $$$, https://www.facebook.com/bikersfortrump/posts/1825600407724315 .... they're out there and their numbers have grown and they're planning on forming a "wall of meat" outside the inauguration ball. I read they'll be outnumbered but I don't think they care. They came out in Janesville WI and evidently they came out in Chicago and Cleveland and in other cities and apparently they're coming out again only this time I think I heard there will be thousands not hundreds, http://www.bikersfortrump2016.com/. Good. Might help offset some of this nonsense, 'Planned Violence: Organizer of Trump inauguration mass riots doesn’t believe in “peaceful transition of power', 'US facing CIVIL WAR because Trump's rivals cannot accept him as president', http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...world/753336/donald-trump-us-president-civil-war-angela-merkel-ally-john-mccain and https://www.intellihub.com/organize...f-trump-inauguration-mass-riots-doesnt-believe-in-peaceful-transition-of-power/ and 'Think the Aftermath of the Election Was Bad? Wait Until Inauguration Day', http://daisyluther.com/think-the-aftermath-of-the-election-was-bad-wait-until-inauguration-day/
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Don't know that Obummer had anything to do with Gen Schwartz’s removal on the 20th since he was an Obummer appointee and supporter but the timing is rather strange. Could have been Trump...after-all... the powers that be certainly have mastered the art of killing by proxy now haven't they and I'm sure he doesn't want to fall and break his neck:
'The top commander of the DC National Guard is being removed on inauguration day', https://finance.yahoo.com/news/president-just-fired-top-commander-174256774.html
'RED ALERT: Commanding general of D.C. National Guard to be removed from post DURING Inauguration Day!!', http://investmentwatchblog.com/red-...ional-guard-to-be-removed-from-post-during-inauguration-day-yahoo-blames-obama/
 
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I guess if you are a "civil rights icon" you can say anything you want and nobody can challenge it...otherwise, you must be a racist.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/%e2%80%98all-talk-no-action%e2%80%99-trump-says-in-attack-on-john-lewis-a-civil-rights-icon/ar-AAlS0Fb?li=BBnbfcQ

The media and the politicians (both conservative and liberal) can't accept that things are not going to be "business as usual" at the White House for a few years.

I hope Trump doesn't get meek because of their criticism.
 
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Regarding Gen Schwartz,
I suspect it is happening as a result of a ham-handed approach by OPM to terminating all political appointees without even knowing what that category might include and executed blindly by the current pentagon "leadership". I suspect that Trump, if he becomes aware of it, and actually decides to replace him, would do so in a traditional military manner, which provides for a formal change of command with dignified recognition of the outgoing commander. Hell he was appointed by Bush and has held the job for 8 years!
It is gross the way it is being done and is just one more slight by the admin visa-vie the military. It will be painted by the media as a Trump disrespect to a black if left to stand, regardless of the truth.
 
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BO has a whole bag of tricks for the transition and he seems bound to use 'em all!!
Mike
 
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Am no fan of any of the Bush Family or many of their appointees. I have a hard time believing Schwartz's termination slipped through PEOTUS cracks, "terminating all political appointees without even knowing what that category might include and executed blindly by the current pentagon "leadership". Everything happens for a reason.
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Can't help but remember watching JFK's assassination and many years later reading comments in which it was stated his personal driver had been relieved of his duties and replaced with a new driver a week before he was murdered. Also watched a video several years ago of the SS stepping away from his vehicle on YouTube. Things that make me go hmmm....
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Trump will make it through the inauguration unscathed.... he has his mercenaries. Obama, regardless of what me or anyone else thinks of him.... is OUR President and there should be respect for the office. I have this little voice telling me Obummer is being viewed as a liability by the globalist powers that be these days and could be the person in their sights and that Trump may actually be trying to dissimulate any assassination attempts on his life. How many high powered rifles have been discovered hidden along the Potomac so far>>>? It will be interesting watching how many... if any.... move out of the way when Obummer shows up.
 
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