[morgaj1]

the best thing that could have happened to everlast is the WW board. it is incredible the amount of page views the rants of the proles generates. what i have noticed is that a lot of the poster's that rail against the imports are marginally competent in their fields.

i own a 250 ex that i purchased solely for aluminum; it works great. i had no problem communicating with their sales people; in fact they seem to be quite available. their bigger problem seems to stem from purchases by beginners. i also see evidence of that victim mentality that afflicts a lot of younger america today; don't you enjoy those posts where the writer rags on because no one will contact them on a sunday evening; as though the employees are to be there 24/7 to serve them. lol get a grip.

take a look at some of the posts in this thread and the ones down below; imagine being the unfortunate sales person that sold to 'skull'. it was a lucky day at everlast when he deccided to go used. there are plenty like him out there too. let miller have them, who needs that business.

i would say in summation that the fact that everlast has been singled out to the extent that they have is more of a reflection of their marketing success rather than any indication of failure.

i read, i buy or don't buy, and i live with the decision.

How do you respond to the fiasco that is crab fisherman's experience?

 

[morgaj1]

I don't understand why these posts always have people that take things personally. Further, I don't understand the vehement brand loyalty and blind support given to Everlast or Longevity by a certain few. As you can see from my signature, I am not brand loyal. I buy the best I can for the price I can afford. Most often, that is a used, US brand machine.

And yes, I have owned an Everlast machine. What turned me off was the constant back and forth between customers and Everlast employees. I have seen a few examples of good customer service, but have seen many, many more people hung out to dry. By the time some of these people paid all the shipping to have a machine fixed, they could have bought a new, quality machine. I also do not understand why the Everlast loyalists seem to think it is normal for a new machine to require points be set, connectors reconnected, etc. IMO, a machine should work as intended, out of the box, regardless of the price point.

 

[morgaj1]

"So if I had a job where my equipment mattered, it wouldn't be this machine. So I will let you guys know how it turns out. But if all of you don't hate HF machines, which are junk, and bash Everlast, is just stupid. That's right, stupid."

I'm pretty sure that its not the "machine's" that most are knocking on this thread. It is the product support and sales tactics....as well as return/replacement policies (some likes, some dislikes as I read them!). That is the sole reason why I would suggest going to the larger, established companies.....not to importers...to buy these low cost systems.

You are wise to order better quality components (torch, footpedal) in advance.

Jim

Jim said it much more eloquently than I can. My problem with Everlast lies with the employees, customer service, sales tactics, etc., not with the machines.

 

[morgaj1]

as this is not about a specific everlast machine will rules allow for it to be made a sticky so we don't have to repeat the same thread monthly?
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