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Re: Preventing equipment theft

Originally Posted by 12345678910

Re the gps removal.

Odds are some kid that works at the rental place knows where the gps devices are.


I'd use as many ways as you can manage and hope they don't find them all


apple has these new little trackers, they piggyback off of iphone bluetooth, so they rely on having an iphone cellphone nearby to track

but that way, they don't need a power source.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/...oduces-airtag/

I looked at the Milwaukee trackers closer and they look like the same as the apple thingies only different.

Same thing, use as many different systems as possible, but don't tell anyone about them, especially not employees or friends.
maybe they are ok, but after you fire, divorce them whatever things change.

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Originally Posted by 12345678910

Re the gps removal.

Odds are some kid that works at the rental place knows where the gps devices are.


I'd use as many ways as you can manage and hope they don't find them all


apple has these new little trackers, they piggyback off of iphone bluetooth, so they rely on having an iphone cellphone nearby to track

but that way, they don't need a power source.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/...oduces-airtag/

OR, use the unconstitutional tax payer paid digital DOT highway boards/license plate readers/ road intersection cameras/smart lights/ city drones/etc etc that are used to surveil/track/moniter/listen/record law abiding american citizens, to work against common crime/theft. id like to see amber alerts for cat backhoes/trailers, not just a dad taking his own kid from his estranged wife

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Re the gps removal.

Odds are some kid that works at the rental place knows where the gps devices are.


I'd use as many ways as you can manage and hope they don't find them all


apple has these new little trackers, they piggyback off of iphone bluetooth, so they rely on having an iphone cellphone nearby to track

but that way, they don't need a power source.

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2021/...oduces-airtag/

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Originally Posted by farmersammm

You know..............it's all about the passage of time, and the thoughts. Dog passes, people pass..............ya know.

I demo'd the porch on the mobile home this last weekend. Didn't think too much about it. It was rotting, and endangering the mobile home. Had to cut it down.

I got done with it, and it hit me.

That damn place was where my parents lived, till they died. I built the porch with a ramp. It was used twice. Both times to take one of them out of there, and they never came back.

I got done with the demo, and had to sit down. It was a bad moment. Getting rid of that structure was the REAL end. After years, it brought it all home. They're gone, and that's that. It's over. Really got to me. K'kins will be facing the same thing in the near future. Her Mom is still alive, but in her 80's.

I think I know exactly what you are saying, My mother is in her 80's too and starting to slide away a little at a time. Keeps me up at night some times. It's nice when the kids and grandkids can visit so I can get a view of the future. Got 5 good kids and 10 good grandkids.

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Originally Posted by 12V71

My last Heeler bit a dumb 20 something chick at a mini mart, I came out to the girl holding her hand (no blood) and her dumber but huge boyfriend standing by the truck, a cop showed up followed by the animal control van. Not a good sign... The Sarge asked her what happened, "I reached in to pet the dog" was her reply. Game over. Animal control guy checked Ellie's rabies tag and said "Have a nice day".
Big dumb dude wanted to keep talking until Sarge offered to charge barbie with attempted theft. That dog was smart though, I kept the windows higher after that and came out to a woman with a young kid around 18 months old saying "Say hi to the doggy", Ellie was just smiling and wagging her tail.

You know..............it's all about the passage of time, and the thoughts. Dog passes, people pass..............ya know.

I demo'd the porch on the mobile home this last weekend. Didn't think too much about it. It was rotting, and endangering the mobile home. Had to cut it down.

I got done with it, and it hit me.

That damn place was where my parents lived, till they died. I built the porch with a ramp. It was used twice. Both times to take one of them out of there, and they never came back.

I got done with the demo, and had to sit down. It was a bad moment. Getting rid of that structure was the REAL end. After years, it brought it all home. They're gone, and that's that. It's over. Really got to me. K'kins will be facing the same thing in the near future. Her Mom is still alive, but in her 80's.

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We always had water dogs for fish bait when I was a kid, dad kept em in a 15 gallon wash tub that also watered our dog. There was a danged stray cat that was getting the water dogs & we go down to one left so dad got a piece of crusher screen that would straddle the tub and insulated it from the the tup, then he proceeded to "wire the tup to a 120 AC line, One wire to the screen & the other to the tub, That stinkin' cat managed to get the last waterdog, I guess he deserved it, dad was sure that cat would get more than a tickle! LOL

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Originally Posted by farmersammm

Clarence almost earned me a lawsuit when he bit someone at the feed store.

My last Heeler bit a dumb 20 something chick at a mini mart, I came out to the girl holding her hand (no blood) and her dumber but huge boyfriend standing by the truck, a cop showed up followed by the animal control van. Not a good sign... The Sarge asked her what happened, "I reached in to pet the dog" was her reply. Game over. Animal control guy checked Ellie's rabies tag and said "Have a nice day".
Big dumb dude wanted to keep talking until Sarge offered to charge barbie with attempted theft. That dog was smart though, I kept the windows higher after that and came out to a woman with a young kid around 18 months old saying "Say hi to the doggy", Ellie was just smiling and wagging her tail.

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Or you could put an aluminum plate on the seat and connect it to the ignition system if it was gas, and to an electric fence generator if it is diesel.

Sincerely,


William McCormick

Re: Preventing equipment theft

If I wanted to protect a vehicle from being stolen I would remember the thing that went wrong with the vehicle once before that no one could figure out and do that to the vehicle.


Sincerely,

William McCormick

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Henry died from poisoning, and Max never came home from guarding the cows..................We keep Peanut close to home, can't take the anguish anymore. We want Peanut to live out a natural life. A good fence protects the dogs you love. It keeps them from wandering.

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He's buried under the bedroom window, and I suppose Peanut will be next to him when the time comes.

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Clarence had "focus". You never wanted to mess with him.

Attachment 1731171 He would never let you out of his sight. We bonded when I ran over him with the tractor, and his jaw was wired for about a month. I hand fed him with my fingers for the whole time. We never were apart for his whole life, and he would go for your throat if you got too near.

Years later, after he died, I was on my way out to the PNW, for a Slagpit Bash, and this young man came up to me on the plane. I didn't recognize him. He asked me if I still had that mean dog. Clarence had been dead for years, but this guy had grown up, and was on his way to a deployment in Iraq. He still remembered that dog.........he was getting a drink out of the hydrant on the side of the house, and Clarence bit him in the face. The kid was the son of a dairy guy up the highway, and thought Clarence was a good dog..............people around here value a mean dog. I apologized for the pup, the kid laughed, and I suddenly felt old........even back then. Here was this young man, once a kid when Clarence nipped him.....grown into a man, and going off to risk his life. That's a powerful thing.

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Clarence almost earned me a lawsuit when he bit someone at the feed store.

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Something about a dog in the truck. Sure, he's locked in the cab, but when he throws himself against the windows, it seems to make people think twice. A mean dog is worth his weight in gold.

And, a mean dog really (usually) isn't a mean dog.........just territorial. Dogs are like that. Clarence was like that, and so is Peanut. Don't go near what he considers is his.

Clarence would actually attack someone...........dunno if Peanut will.

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There was a video circulating around a few years ago about a Miller engine driven welder being stolen. I believe it was in a Lowe's parking lot in broad daylight. The welder was in the back of a pickup, not as a working unit, probably just being transported. The thieves backed their pickup to the rear of the welder truck, dropped both tailgates, slid the Miller off the victims truck into theirs and drove off...bright sunny day. Took about a minute to do the dirty deed.

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Thieves stole a large generator from a rental yard, stopped at a nearby Lowe's parking lot & removed the GPS then went on their merry way.

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At my job site a concrete crew was building forms for a containment wall, had their shop truck parked across the parking lot maybe 100' from where they were. A beat up car drove through the parking lot, stopped beside the truck, a guy jumped out and grabbed a concrete cutting saw, put it in his car and drove off. This was in broad daylight....

Re: Preventing equipment theft

If they want it their gonna get it. Best bet is to keep them unaware of the equipments existence.

Kill switches on equipment

Battery isolators

You can layer up those sorts of protections.

Removable tongue on the trailers

There are some gps asset management systems but the real effective ones are costly

Knowing your area is a great plan too. Find out if there are thieves in the area. Although when my truck was stolen the guys actually drove down to San Antonio from the Dallas area for the sole purpose of stealing a truck with tools.

Best bet, keep enough money in the bank to purchase every piece you need to keep in business at a moments notice.


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Re: Preventing equipment theft

Make tool look ugly and broken down.

Dave

Originally Posted by Keith Merrell

What are some good ways to keep skid steers, backhoes, excavators, trailers, etc. from being stolen? I already know about the fuel cutoffs and battery disconnects but I think a lot of the thieves do too. Anyone know anything about GPS tracking technology?

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Originally Posted by 123weld

shotgun no. a 22, u got all night , start w/ the feet, and slowly work ur way up

Ya know what...that could be fun...then let the dog have breakfast. Nuthin worse than a thief...nuthin better than a dead thief

Re: Preventing equipment theft

Originally Posted by Popeye an old miner

Just be a mean sonofabitch with a shotgun and an even meaner dog

shotgun no. a 22, u got all night , start w/ the feet, and slowly work ur way up

Re: Preventing equipment theft

I worked for myself most of my life as a power equipment dealer (Stihl / Ariens / Kohler / Generac, etc). After almost fourty years of experience I still don't know how to stop someone from stealing from you if they are determined .... short of hiring an on-site security service. Dogs don't work. The criminals poison or shoot dogs, so I've never even entertained the idea. An acquaintance in the same business hired trained temp duty dogs .... they ate the seats of the snowmobiles he was selling. Thieves don't care about alarms or lights. They give themselves a set time and go in and out. They usually shop ahead and have a list. I have seen the results of break-ins where they stepped over some easy to take things .... just to pick up stuff on their list.

My cousin ran a J-D dealership just up the road from me and a friend ran a competing business in the next town. We used to stay in touch, just so the others would know they were next .... my cousin parked his tilt-n-load across his garage door one time .... they stole the truck. After having both our garage doors driven thru one winter my buddy installed 6" concrete filled pipe inside the door and I put steel beams across mine on the outside. They found other ways in.

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We run into the same thing when doing jobs... a lot of times it isn't practical to haul the machine(s) off site each day... some are small out of the way private jobs... some are in bad areas Looked at gps trackers once... downside is the monthly cel bill.... there are other trackers with greater range than a tick/loc8tor/etc... but still limited if they take it out of the area....
A buddy had a small artic loader stolen a couple weeks ago from his yard!!! some reports of it still being in the area - stolen by a father son team who steal lots of things ( they don't have it back yet afaik.... but supposedly know who took it... IMHO the right thing to do would be hunt the perps down and you get it back... one way or another

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Nearly impossible to stop a determined thief, locks an other deterrents only keep honest folks honest. GPS won't stop anyone from stealing, only helps recover what ever is left after they steal it and part it out. The Milwaukee ticks only work if someone is near the unit with the app running on their phone. I think the best is usually simple common sense things, well light storage area, don't hide the keys on the equipment, battery switches, park so it is harder to simply drive off. If you are really concerned about the jobsite and it is practical haul it out each day.

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Just be a mean sonofabitch with a shotgun and an even meaner dog