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Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by Mikel_24

It is curious to witness how the electrical supply and squema (lines, ground, neutral, phases, voltage, etc. ) change between different countries. I am not a certified electrician by any means but I wire my own circuits, protections, etc. 1ph and 3ph I ask one of my cousins when in doubt, as he is indeed a certified electrician.

The electrical installations you have there in the US have nothing to do with what we have here in Spain... If I had to wire anything there, I will probably smoke myself. At least the first time, then I will have to get familiar with your ways of doing!

Mikel

I am in the UK, not the US. We have 240v single phase, and 415v 3 phase, only.

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by Munkul

Single phase 240v phase-to-neutral is effectively the same as 2 phase 240v phase-to-phase, when it comes to an electrical load. The main differences being in fault conditions

It is curious to witness how the electrical supply and squema (lines, ground, neutral, phases, voltage, etc. ) change between different countries. I am not a certified electrician by any means but I wire my own circuits, protections, etc. 1ph and 3ph I ask one of my cousins when in doubt, as he is indeed a certified electrician.

The electrical installations you have there in the US have nothing to do with what we have here in Spain... If I had to wire anything there, I will probably smoke myself. At least the first time, then I will have to get familiar with your ways of doing!

Mikel

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by William Payne

That’s where a sacrificial plate can stick in the table is handy.

Drill a pattern of 5/8" holes and you'll be fine. You can always add more as needed. [emoji1]


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Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by William Payne

It wouldn’t work in the United States. It’s 240 volt 50hz single phase. I believe you guys need 2 120v phases to get 240 over there? We just use one.

Single phase 240v phase-to-neutral is effectively the same as 2 phase 240v phase-to-phase, when it comes to an electrical load. The main differences being in fault conditions

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by whtbaron

Yea... I've thought about it, but I can't do it. I did some airbrushing on mine that I thought would be gone in a month, but going on 2 yrs later, it's held up very well. The airbrushing is so thin I've never had a problem getting a good ground, so I haven't been grinding on it either...

That’s where a sacrificial plate can stick in the table is handy.

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by William Payne

Welding to a welding table top is a sacrilege offence haha.

Yea... I've thought about it, but I can't do it. I did some airbrushing on mine that I thought would be gone in a month, but going on 2 yrs later, it's held up very well. The airbrushing is so thin I've never had a problem getting a good ground, so I haven't been grinding on it either...

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by Mikel_24

It will work here in Spain no problem. No 110/120 to be seen anywhere. Always 230-240 1ph and if you want it, 3ph 380-400 (which is what I have in my shop). How do you want to arrange the shipping???

And what you state is true. Having 3ph 380/400 gives you access to used industrial machines that are cheap in the secondary market (basically because almost none wants them as they cannot run them).

To the OP... GREAT TABLE! Are you planning on drilling it in a pattern to use clamps? I don't think you will be tacking stuff to that pristine surface... how do you plan on clamping things in the middle of the table?

Mikel

You are absolutely correct about the 3 phase and used machinery. Yes I have 3 phase power in my shop behind my house.

I really should put my esab back to use. I blew all the capacitors in it and had to replace them all.

As for my table and clamps. I’m going to work out a good but not excessive pattern for mounting clamps. I don’t need hundreds of holes but some strategically placed will be good.

Welding to a welding table top is a sacrilege offence haha.

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by William Payne

It wouldn’t work in the United States. It’s 240 volt 50hz single phase. I believe you guys need 2 120v phases to get 240 over there? We just use one.

That’s what’s so handy about my Syncrowave. You just tap the transformer for what voltage you run which in my shop is 400v.

Also you guys have access to a used machine market so large that I can only dream of having access to. I have to import a lot of stuff.

It will work here in Spain no problem. No 110/120 to be seen anywhere. Always 230-240 1ph and if you want it, 3ph 380-400 (which is what I have in my shop). How do you want to arrange the shipping???

And what you state is true. Having 3ph 380/400 gives you access to used industrial machines that are cheap in the secondary market (basically because almost none wants them as they cannot run them).

To the OP... GREAT TABLE! Are you planning on drilling it in a pattern to use clamps? I don't think you will be tacking stuff to that pristine surface... how do you plan on clamping things in the middle of the table?

Mikel

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by NotaVegetarian

if you don’t use the ESAB you could donate it to me. I don’t know how to use but it sure looks like fun to learn on

It wouldn’t work in the United States. It’s 240 volt 50hz single phase. I believe you guys need 2 120v phases to get 240 over there? We just use one.

That’s what’s so handy about my Syncrowave. You just tap the transformer for what voltage you run which in my shop is 400v.

Also you guys have access to a used machine market so large that I can only dream of having access to. I have to import a lot of stuff.

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by William Payne

I hardly use the esab

if you don’t use the ESAB you could donate it to me. I don’t know how to use but it sure looks like fun to learn on

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Looks great 👍 👌

Dave

Originally Posted by William Payne

Second coat. If I’m happy with it I’ll leave at 2 coats. If not a third will go on.

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Second coat. If I’m happy with it I’ll leave at 2 coats. If not a third will go on.

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Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by whtbaron

Oh it's not a hobby for me, not yet anyway. I farm so the repairs I make or the projects I take on are for my own use.

Got to keep the farm equipment going. I have never had anything to do with farming but it’s definitely something I admire.

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lol... me too....

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by whtbaron

Oh it's not a hobby for me, not yet anyway. I farm so the repairs I make or the projects I take on are for my own use.

I hope you have as much fun as me when you retire,Les[emoji3]


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Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by William Payne

I do wonder what I would do differently if I was only interested in this as a hobby.

Oh it's not a hobby for me, not yet anyway. I farm so the repairs I make or the projects I take on are for my own use.

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by whtbaron

I'm my own boss, floor sweeper and customer, so I have a bad tendency to really not care what other's think. I might have to fire the floor sweeper...

I do wonder what I would do differently if I was only interested in this as a hobby.

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I'm my own boss, floor sweeper and customer, so I have a bad tendency to really not care what other's think. I might have to fire the floor sweeper...

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The most important factor for me is that everything looks professional. You don’t have to spend a lot of money to set yourself up in a professional looking manner as long as everything is clean and tidy. I definitely need to do a big tidy up next.

I always look at it from the point of view of what standard of quality and professionalism is important to the type of customers you want to attract. Sim for that.

Re: Stupidly overkill welding table project.

Originally Posted by whtbaron

Hmmm.... looks like that ESAB would go pretty good with John Deere yellow....

I hardly use the esab. I use my Syncrowave 99% of the time. In fact that table was welded with my Syncrowave.

I have always liked the grey colour you see in photos of old machine shops where many of the machines were grey. I like things to be the colour they would have been factory so I thought the grey a good choice if the table had been something you could buy at some point back in the day.

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Hmmm.... looks like that ESAB would go pretty good with John Deere yellow....

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First finish coat done.

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Originally Posted by Lis2323

now you're talkin'!




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That'd be my dream shop right there.

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I think TSC in Canada got mostly sold out to Peavy Mart. I'm not sure if they carry any paints... haven't noticed it in the flyers.

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Does Tractor Supply have stores in Canadia? (Canadia )

https://www.majicpaints.com/farm/tti/

They sell Majic paint at Tractor Supply. Good paint.

Dupli-Color Engine Enamel is probably the best spray paint I've used. It's fairly cheap, drys FAST (couple minutes), and its good for 500 Degrees Freedom (260C)

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