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Re: Pipe Stands

Castor wheels just don’t work in pipe stands save your self time and money LOL I have 25 maybe 30 stands I don’t ever use rollers everyone is over thinking this whole project making it way harder then need be farmmersam will never get his crane built he is using up all his time building pipe stands

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Originally Posted by hvw

If you buy the correct caster, like Tarmstrong said, there won't be an issue. I've had a 700 pound backhoe attachment on Harbor Freight casters for about two years now and I can still move it around easily.

Which ones do you use? I've used the 3" solid poly casters rated 275lb ea; used them for my garage shelving (5-shelf, 2ft x 4ft x 6ft) bases and they work pretty good I'd say. Also used them for my 30HP RPC and my 30kVA 3-Φ transformer.

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If you buy the correct caster, like Tarmstrong said, there won't be an issue. I've had a 700 pound backhoe attachment on Harbor Freight casters for about two years now and I can still move it around easily.

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Originally Posted by farmersammm

Hand operated.

Which is a real eye opener when it comes to turning resistance. You don't feel the resistance on a motorized thing, but you sure can tell the difference when something's hand operated.

One of the best bearing materials, other than steel roller/ball bearings, is nylon or some other types of plastic. I guess it's the makeup of the material that makes it "slippery". The journal has to be real clean for it to work.........get a bit of dirt in there, and the plastic acts like a brake.

Now that y'all got me thinking...........I'd even wonder if sealed deep groove ball bearings might be a cheap solution. Mount them on an incline, and you'd have clearance for any size pipe. Just move the axles up the inclines for larger size pipe.

I have built my own roller stands in the past with 3/8" plate rounds turning on a 1/2" pin, no bearing, no bushing, and the guys even grounded through them (not recommended) but they worked just fine. Personally, I have no use for rollers, Once I have the pipe centerline established I do not want it moving while I am marking cuts, etc. And I don't want it moving while cutting or grinding saddle cuts, etc.

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My welding table had an 800lbs engine on it for months…it too weighs 800lbs…nothing.

I also have my boats on dollies with the same casters (ER Wagner or RWS) and they weight 4K and 2800lbs and I move them both…easily alone…

I tried several compounds and finally figured out which one won’t flat spot over time. I have the boats on the dollies about 7-8 months at a time.

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Originally Posted by Tarmstrong

You guys need to up your caster game. Good casters will not flat spot iffin’ you get the correct compound and these are rated for 800lbs. Each. Used them for years on my stuff and never had any issues.

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Yes they are rated for 800 # each but I know from experience leave a 2000 pound load (500# per wheel) overnite and you'll have to be a pretty big guy to try to get it rolling.


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You guys need to up your caster game. Good casters will not flat spot iffin’ you get the correct compound and these are rated for 800lbs. Each. Used them for years on my stuff and never had any issues.

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Got the heaters running out in the shop. IT'S SHAFT DAY!! The 1144 came in the mail yesterday while I was in Tulsa. Won't get back to this for at least a day, but it's something you guys gave me to think about. Pipe is pretty unfriendly if you don't know how to work with it.

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Originally Posted by Leogl

First of all lightly buff the rust of approximately where your stands are going to be placed secondly keep your vee heads clean pour some pipe in there put a pipe wrench in the end after the pipe is level Ty and turn it if it turns hard spray just a little wd40 on the vee head and try again when you remove a piece of pipe clean heads go again worst thing you can do is ground to pipe stand ALWAYS GROUND to pipe so you don’t have a stand full if pits always use a sanding disc on stands to clean not grinding wheel

Yeah, you'd mentioned greasing the V's earlier. Or greasing the pipe.

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First of all lightly buff the rust of approximately where your stands are going to be placed secondly keep your vee heads clean pour some pipe in there put a pipe wrench in the end after the pipe is level Ty and turn it if it turns hard spray just a little wd40 on the vee head and try again when you remove a piece of pipe clean heads go again worst thing you can do is ground to pipe stand ALWAYS GROUND to pipe so you don’t have a stand full if pits always use a sanding disc on stands to clean not grinding wheel

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Hell, a guy could just roll the damn things on the sawhorses................but when the dood set my pipe off to the side for pickup, I was amazed at how unstable they were on the skid steer. Didn't take much for them to try and come off the forks. Little bit of an incline, and the things were on their way to Texas

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'Course ya need the pipe to stop spinning Get too fancy, and ya's just gonna sit there all day waiting for it to stop

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Originally Posted by mrmikey

Because of RPM maybe? You won't be going that fast rolling pipe....will you :-) ?..........Mike

Hand operated.

Which is a real eye opener when it comes to turning resistance. You don't feel the resistance on a motorized thing, but you sure can tell the difference when something's hand operated.

One of the best bearing materials, other than steel roller/ball bearings, is nylon or some other types of plastic. I guess it's the makeup of the material that makes it "slippery". The journal has to be real clean for it to work.........get a bit of dirt in there, and the plastic acts like a brake.

Now that y'all got me thinking...........I'd even wonder if sealed deep groove ball bearings might be a cheap solution. Mount them on an incline, and you'd have clearance for any size pipe. Just move the axles up the inclines for larger size pipe.

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When I built the bale wrapper, the first design had steel on steel bushings/shaft...............total disaster.

Because of RPM maybe? You won't be going that fast rolling pipe....will you :-) ?..........Mike

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Leogl recommended greasing the saddles so the pipe could turn, maybe I'll go that route first, and see how it works.

Any non-wheel way of doin' this sorta worries me. My greatest concern is the pipe trying to climb the saddles.

I don't know if the steel casters come with bearings. I had a very bad experience with steel-on-steel rotating results. When I built the bale wrapper, the first design had steel on steel bushings/shaft...............total disaster. The increased turning effort made it a PITA to work with. Had to totally redesign it, using pillow block bearings. Now the bale wrapper is a joy to use, literally. I can purchase 1-3yr old hay with crapped up net wrap, or twine....................................get it for cheap. Show up with the Uranus Reddi Wrap, and do a bale in under a minute Then Sammy climbs back in the truck, and heads home with his 10-$15 round balesAttachment 1732972 Yankee cheap, combined with Okie smart.

With today's modern balers, that run 'em tight......the greatest loss on old bales is on the bottom, not the top. You might lose up to a max of maybe 25%. Gotta guy that has bales that can't even be transported anymore, because the wrap is so trashed, you can get some real good prices. The gurls don't care if it's old hay. If it's been put up right, it's still green in the bale.

Anyways.............back to casters...........I'll check if they come with bearings.

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Those casters will be nothing but problems.

Gotta agree there, I'm thinking the pipe will sink into the wheel in no time................Mike

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Originally Posted by 12V71

You're going to wish you had gone with steel casters. Just saying. Narrow ones are even better. Those cheapos will flat spot if you leave a load on them for more than a few minutes.
I realize my years of experience with pipe don't count, but...

Those casters will be nothing but problems. I would cut the plastic off of a laundry detergent bottle and line the vee head to reduce friction before that garbage.

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Originally Posted by farmersammm

Attachment 1732967 I thought I was done with these stupid stands

I did the deal on the 8" pipe today, and I got to looking at those things According to the load sheet.............3 joints (40' apiece) weigh just under 3700#

I weigh in at just a bit over 150#, and the bulk of my testosterone flew South for the Winter (Golden years my azz). This means I'm in no shape to be wrestling 1200# bits of pipe to cut them, let alone mark them for the cut. Used to be a pretty sinewy guy, but I'd estimate I've lost at least 25% of my muscle mass with age. I can cut them to shorter lengths, for the blanks, while they're on the ground, but I don't care to fight them when they're in 13' pieces.

Anyways.................On the way out of town, I stopped at Harbor Freight,, and picked up 4 casters so's I can make a pair of roller heads for the pipe stands.

They're rated to 330# each, so I'm thinking that ought to be enough. That gives me a 660# capacity per stand.

Fingered out the design while at Carl's Junior, so it's more stuff to deal with I guess.

I figure they might also come in handy for welding roundy thingy splices one day. The possibilities are absolutely endless!!!!!!!!!!!!

You're going to wish you had gone with steel casters. Just saying. Narrow ones are even better. Those cheapos will flat spot if you leave a load on them for more than a few minutes.
I realize my years of experience with pipe don't count, but...

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Attachment 1732967 I thought I was done with these stupid stands

I did the deal on the 8" pipe today, and I got to looking at those things According to the load sheet.............3 joints (40' apiece) weigh just under 3700#

I weigh in at just a bit over 150#, and the bulk of my testosterone flew South for the Winter (Golden years my azz). This means I'm in no shape to be wrestling 1200# bits of pipe to cut them, let alone mark them for the cut. Used to be a pretty sinewy guy, but I'd estimate I've lost at least 25% of my muscle mass with age. I can cut them to shorter lengths, for the blanks, while they're on the ground, but I don't care to fight them when they're in 13' pieces.

Anyways.................On the way out of town, I stopped at Harbor Freight,, and picked up 4 casters so's I can make a pair of roller heads for the pipe stands.

They're rated to 330# each, so I'm thinking that ought to be enough. That gives me a 660# capacity per stand.

Fingered out the design while at Carl's Junior, so it's more stuff to deal with I guess.

I figure they might also come in handy for welding roundy thingy splices one day. The possibilities are absolutely endless!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You did a nice job on those.

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Originally Posted by farmersammm

B Show me an inverter that can do the same. The new stuff is pure crap, at a premium price.

Great pics as always! If you're still around, I'll be happy to show you my inverter stick welders 20+ years down the line.

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"It is as it should be...". I am very happy for you Sammm[emoji481]


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I guess this one's oh-fish-ally closed out Done deal, ready for the history books Ready to go to work. Finally()

I generally like to look back on the journey, because just about everything I do is a one-off. I enjoy it, and hope others do too.

I sometimes wonder if people live good lives. Some seem so miserable in their own existence that they have a crying need to infect the world with their own particular brand of funk I gave that up years ago, when I met K'kins, and life turned golden. Haven't been banned since I met her

I suddenly realized that I had a charmed life. I live about 100mi. from the nearest big city. I get up when I want, and go to sleep when I want. I step out on my porch, and know it's mine to the tree line over at the mile section. It's a good life. I gave up on being a miserable human being. All the aggressive BS flew out the door. I'm livin' the Life of Riley. I get to kiss K'kins on her nose tonight when we go to bed. Life's good.

(The old Farmersam woulda told ya.......................don't like it.............shove it up URANUS)

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I had to chuckle at , " we don't have time..." Pipe stands look good. Mill work , always fun to see what other do.

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Originally Posted by leightrepairs

I think that if I was making these I would have made the connection from the collar to Acme thread an interference fit, about 5 thousands. Then to install heated the collar to make it grow the 5 thou, slip it on the Acme thread, let it cool and be done with it. Just an idea for consideration.

That or just drill and pin. I have never put lifting loads on a pipe stand.