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Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? $189 but $69 shipping but if you can find a local wholesaler it should be no more than that. Open account at gas supply $28 to fill. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HR4YBFT...-X92-LO-T1R3AT
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Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Ruark Arggghhhh, it's getting worse. Been calling around on the cost of an argon bottle. Prices ranging from $330 to $450 for a 122 cubic ft. So we're looking at $700+ just to get started. Pretty steep for just a "garage hobby." I might just stay with my trusty old NR-211....... That is full retail. You can do better but it won't come find you. I don't think I have much more than $100 or thereabouts into any of my many 125 and 250 cu ft tanks. Craigslist and Pawn Shops are good place to look. 125 cu ft all day long as many as you want for $140 in South Florida. There are wholesalers of tanks hiding around you somewhere. https://miami.craigslist.org/mdc/tls...362679997.html
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Lis2323 Pretty sure he gave a price range for EACH. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Yup., and that was a while back, like a couple years ago, not recently. But my point is the deals are out there. You just have to like around and maybe even drive out of your way. I drive 150mi to get mine, 2 at a time.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Ruark That much for ALL FOUR???? Pretty sure he gave a price range for EACH. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Oscar Yup, I've found like 4 tanks for around $130-$150 already filled. That much for ALL FOUR????
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by albrightree Craigslist/Face Space Market Yup, I've found like 4 tanks for around $130-$150 already filled.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Craigslist/Face Space Market. Sometimes you can buy a cheap chinese mig, and a 120 cu ft bottle for $150 to $200 off there. Just be patient, and ready to drive when something comes up. Good deals don't last more than a day, usually. Renting is another possibility, usually about $120 a year on a 330 cu ft bottle, maybe $90 for a 120 ? Last time I looked(maybe over a year ago) I thought I saw 120 cu ft argon empty as tractor supply for $300 dollars? maybe. Good Luck 420
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Oscar If you're close to san Antonio, you can usually find good used tanks for around $125 Yeah, we're near San Antonio. Where would I look for a "used" tank like that?
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Ruark Arggghhhh, it's getting worse. Been calling around on the cost of an argon bottle. Prices ranging from $330 to $450 for a 122 cubic ft. So we're looking at $700+ just to get started. Pretty steep for just a "garage hobby." I might just stay with my trusty old NR-211....... If you're close to san Antonio, you can usually find good used tanks for around $125
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Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Arggghhhh, it's getting worse. Been calling around on the cost of an argon bottle. Prices ranging from $330 to $450 for a 122 cubic ft. So we're looking at $700+ just to get started. Pretty steep for just a "garage hobby." I might just stay with my trusty old NR-211.......
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Ruark Lots of nice replies, thanks. But if I get a different torch (e.g. a "superflex"), will it still fit the machine? Also, what is this about a "26" and a "17"? I didn't know torches came in "voltages." Sorry to be so naive, I just never went near TIG before. How does the argon get to the torch? The 211i doesn't have any kind of gas connection on the front of the machine. Yes, it will fit. My 17V torch has a 150 amp rating for what that is worth. A 26 torch will have a higher amperage rating. As others have stated, the "V" means a gas valve, which you need, is integrated into the torch handle. There are many ways to connect argon to the torch, I'm using the following connector on my 211i. https://weldfabulous.com/lenco-05610-ldt-917-f/
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Ruark Lots of nice replies, thanks. But if I get a different torch (e.g. a "superflex"), will it still fit the machine? Also, what is this about a "26" and a "17"? I didn't know torches came in "voltages." Sorry to be so naive, I just never went near TIG before. How does the argon get to the torch? The 211i doesn't have any kind of gas connection on the front of the machine. I forgot to add that "Superflex" just means the hoses have a flexible, braided outer layer and far more flexible than those with a plastic coating. The connector at the machine end and having a valve on the torch are the two critical factors for your application. If it's got the right connector and a valve, you'll be able to use it. Flexible lines and a flex head torch are really nice to have, but not show stoppers.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by danielplace I just realized why OP thought voltage now. The V at the end. 26V That denotes it has a valve on the torch body for gas control since the machine does not have a built in solenoid. Good point....and companies all use slightly different naming conventions so it's not always clear. Some add "F" for a flex head, "R" for a rotating head, etc. I messed up one time and ordered the wrong torch because of that confusion...luckily it only cost me return shipping.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? I just realized why OP thought voltage now. The V at the end. 26V That denotes it has a valve on the torch body for gas control since the machine does not have a built in solenoid.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Ruark Lots of nice replies, thanks. But if I get a different torch (e.g. a "superflex"), will it still fit the machine? Also, what is this about a "26" and a "17"? I didn't know torches came in "voltages." Sorry to be so naive, I just never went near TIG before. How does the argon get to the torch? The 211i doesn't have any kind of gas connection on the front of the machine. TIG torches use numbers that show their amperage rating which generally correlates to their physical size. Air cooled torches are normally 9, 17 or 26 sizes going from small to large. A torch with a gas valve will have a longer gas line that attaches to the output of the flow meter/regulator.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by Ruark Lots of nice replies, thanks. But if I get a different torch (e.g. a "superflex"), will it still fit the machine? Also, what is this about a "26" and a "17"? I didn't know torches came in "voltages." Sorry to be so naive, I just never went near TIG before. What about the pedal? Doesn't it have to fit into the remote control plug on the front of the machine? I'm assuming they're not all compatible They aren't in voltage but the physical size/amp rating. The 26 is a little large but put some stubby consumables on it and it will shrink the size down some. Most ready made torch kits for that unit seem to be that 26 size torch. You are going to at least want the switch to control power.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Lots of nice replies, thanks. But if I get a different torch (e.g. a "superflex"), will it still fit the machine? Also, what is this about a "26" and a "17"? I didn't know torches came in "voltages." Sorry to be so naive, I just never went near TIG before. How does the argon get to the torch? The 211i doesn't have any kind of gas connection on the front of the machine.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? As far as I know SSC makes the foot controls for Lincoln so in that case they are the OEM.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? If you do buy a pedal, I have to say, the SSC pedals are the nicest pedals out there, apart from some of the OEMs. Extremely well built, extremely smooth, and also well priced considering. They're so good, that they're the default aftermarket choice over here, even though there's only one or two people import them from America. They're so worth it.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Originally Posted by danielplace Most of the ready to go kits for that machine seem to be sporting the 26 torch. With a set of stubby consumables you can shrink it's size down considerably. CK also has a 26 that is slightly smaller. Almost like a 17.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? Most of the ready to go kits for that machine seem to be sporting the 26 torch. With a set of stubby consumables you can shrink it's size down considerably.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? I have the thermal arc 181i which as far as I know uses the same 8 pin connector. My torch is a 17 with the gas valve and a push button. The 17 is a fair amount smaller than a 26.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? I have a 211i and found that torch to be extremely bulky and inflexible. I sold it before ever using it and went with a foot pedal. I also went with a 17V torch as don't see needing the full amperage for my tig usage. For me, the foot pedal was worth the added cost.
Re: Starting with TIG - is this everything? The machine will allow a lot more than a scratch start setup. With the pushbutton you can terminate the arc without snapping out. Also the machine has up and downslope settings that are controlled with the push button. I would go with that esab torch with included button or see if htp offers one with the button.
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