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Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

Years back when the Hazmat charge was invented, I was working and a LWS. The charge was $2.00 per invoice. The theme was that the charge covered hazmat training, Hydrotest and paint.
It soon doubled and then doubled again with delivery charges and surcharges added in.

It was common knowledge for those of us who worked there that this was simply a way to increase profits. Several million was raised annually. Some of us who actually used the products they sold were gifted free gas and product discounts seemingly as hush money.

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I’ve had the habit of saying to myself I got to go to the LWS to get some consumables I might as well bring that one empty cylinder down and exchange it at the same time! I won’t be doing that anymore! A $10 hazmat fee on one cylinder exchange is painful, on 3 or 4 cylinders it’s not nearly as bad!

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I discovered something today. At least at my LWS you get charged the hazmat fee once per visit regardless of if you bring one cylinder in or 100! So I will try to change my practice of just bringing one cylinder in at a time if I can avoid it.

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Originally Posted by Oscar

That's exactly why we need people to continually input what they're paying.

Yes and thanks. It helps to know just how much _praxair is screwing me over. Hazard fee for inert gas my azz.

It seems the smaller the cylinder the more they screw us

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Originally Posted by Insaneride

Oscar we need current dates since the post epidemic prices skew the statistics. No?

Price of a 330cf for acetalyne doesn't jive. Do they even make 330ft acete tank?

That's exactly why we need people to continually input what they're paying.

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Originally Posted by Insaneride

Oops, the date is at far left. My device doesn't show the whole spreadsheet without scrolling

I still don't get 330cf acetalyne . Is that real?

https://www.unitedrentals.com/market...5-330-cubic-ft

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Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

Originally Posted by Insaneride

Oscar we need current dates since the post epidemic prices skew the statistics. No?

Price of a 330cf for acetalyne doesn't jive. Do they even make 330ft acete tank?

Oops, the date is at far left. My device doesn't show the whole spreadsheet without scrolling

I still don't get 330cf acetalyne . Is that real?

Re: The DEFINITIVE Welding Gas Costs Thread.

Oscar we need current dates since the post epidemic prices skew the statistics. No?

Price of a 330cf for acetalyne doesn't jive. Do they even make 330ft acete tank?

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Originally Posted by Podman

I had my 75 cu ft acetylene tank filled for $61 tax and all. I think the gas alone was around $57 or so. In Oklahoma at LWS.

Great! Did you input it into the form so it gets collected in the spreadsheet?

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I had my 75 cu ft acetylene tank filled for $61 tax and all. I think the gas alone was around $57 or so. In Oklahoma at LWS.

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I called here in Indiana to the local Air gas. The MC sized Acetylene and oxygen tanks here both together cost $79.78 to refill.

*B tank sized Oxgen tank will cost $56.80 and similar price for the Acetylene (just one tank not two/ each).

I will have B tanks as soon as I can purchase some used that are not rented but bought outright.

Going to shop around though for prices.

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Originally Posted by robert-r

You might add a button for type of discount. For me, a student discount gets approximately $100 off on a 225 bottle of argon!

Oops - that's a 220CuFt bottle.

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You might add a button for type of discount. For me, a student discount gets approximately $100 off on a 225 bottle of argon!

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Originally Posted by 426hemi

I rent the cylinders as they won’t fill customer cylinders over 80cf around here. $75 per cylinder per year. Just at home I have 6 damn cylinders. Just exchanged a small argon the other day was $78 for the gas and they added a hazardous material fee of $10 almost $90 for a small 155cf argon! I don’t know what we are paying at work as they don’t put a price on the invoice for a commercial account? I’m biting my tongue on my big 300 cf acetylene cylinder swap price. I’ll post the price next week when I swap it.

Thanks for your input. Please fill in the survey on the very first page with this exact information so it can be stored in an easy-to-read instead of posting it.

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I rent the cylinders as they won’t fill customer cylinders over 80cf around here. $75 per cylinder per year. Just at home I have 6 damn cylinders. Just exchanged a small argon the other day was $78 for the gas and they added a hazardous material fee of $10 almost $90 for a small 155cf argon! I don’t know what we are paying at work as they don’t put a price on the invoice for a commercial account? I’m biting my tongue on my big 300 cf acetylene cylinder swap price. I’ll post the price next week when I swap it.

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I put gas price in the survey (not bottle price). I didn’t actually buy a bottle but put it in based on a quote.
April 2022
124cf $231 for the bottle
C25 gas $81

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Originally Posted by Oscar

Good call. Things are changing rapidly now a days. Would be quite useful if everyone doing recent transactions recorded their figures in the spreadsheet.

I saw an interesting headline yesterday,

People now earning $15 an hour have less buying power than they did a year ago when earning $7.50 an hour.

Earning double does nothing when prices have tripled, or more,,,,,,,
This raising of minimum wage may just bankrupt the country,,,,,,,,,,,

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Good call. Things are changing rapidly now a days. Would be quite useful if everyone doing recent transactions recorded their figures in the spreadsheet.

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I just swapped a 155 argon ( $66) and a 75 acetylene ($76) , put them in the data base too- seems like not too many entrys for 2022 yet- the cost seemed high but everything is going through the roof. Hard to judge a price increase with inflation raging. Filled up the van, 87 octane was 4.55, diesel is 4.99.

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I have now sorry for the flub up

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Originally Posted by acourtjester

Today I swapped out a 150 Argon, $30. for gas $0.35 surcharge for 150 cylinder and $2.28 tax total $32.63 North Fla.

Thanks but did you input it into the spreadsheet? The point of this thread is to not have posts by inputing things into the spreadsheet because then things get off topic and then we have 100's of posts with only 10% actual info that people are looking for

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Today I swapped out a 150 Argon, $30. for gas $0.35 surcharge for 150 cylinder and $2.28 tax total $32.63 North Fla.

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I'm envious as all hell of how cheap gas is in the states.

Here in Australia we get robbed blind since there is a duopoly for gas supply, BOC and supagas.

A 120 CuF of argon is $159 just for the gas here, same size of Co2 is $120.

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Originally Posted by KenO

I went today to swap my (owned) 125 argon at Airgas. The guy rang me up and said that will be $78. Huh? I asked if the price went up, I got a refill just two weeks ago and it was $61. He checked again, and said "ya, its $61". Makes me wonder if there are different price lists.

I entered it in the survey, the prices sure are all over the board.

Oh there definitely is different price list. Cash is 3 times a account holder price.

You are still getting robbed. 125 argon should be about $28 out the door price.

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Over the years I have talked to the guys at the big and small liquid carbonic plants and they pretty much told me to get the big tanks because they do not care about the gas as much as the aggravation and handling of the tanks. The smaller tanks pose problems for transporting and the large refillers charge the smaller distributors almost the same price whether it is small or large.

Sincerely,

William McCormick