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  • 10-29-2015
    Weld_
  • 10-29-2015
    LimitedSlip7

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    What do you guys think about the Everlast TIG welders? I'm not sure if I could go backwards to a Chinese machine after the Miller, but it's got a good price on it...
  • 10-27-2015
    pat h

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    There was a guy selling a aerowave on here for a decent deal
  • 10-26-2015
    Weld_

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by LimitedSlip7 View Post
    Well that package is on clearance and way cheaper than the 210. What changes have they made on the 210?

    I'm probably just going to try and find a big used Syncrowave with a cooler...
    Besides the 10 extra amps the duty cycle is a lot better.
  • 10-26-2015
    LimitedSlip7

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Weld_ View Post
    If you are upgrading why not get a Miller 210 Dynasty DX? The 200 is on its way out.
    Well that package is on clearance and way cheaper than the 210. What changes have they made on the 210?

    I'm probably just going to try and find a big used Syncrowave with a cooler...
  • 10-26-2015
    Weld_

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by LimitedSlip7 View Post
    http://www.weldersupply.com/P/375/Mi...sty200DXACDCTi

    Seems like a good deal? Hell, that's close to what I paid just for my 200DX package a year ago...
    If you are upgrading why not get a Miller 210 Dynasty DX? The 200 is on its way out.
  • 10-26-2015
    LimitedSlip7

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    http://www.weldersupply.com/P/375/Mi...sty200DXACDCTi

    Seems like a good deal? Hell, that's close to what I paid just for my 200DX package a year ago...
  • 10-26-2015
    LimitedSlip7

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    I've checked all the pawnshops around here and even offered them $500 on top of whatever they had paid for the welder and more if they could ID the perp. They are all pretty shady and the cops said they would probably just take the welder to a different city and sell it without filling out a pawn ticket.


    This is the only Syncrowave I can find around here on Craigslist:

    https://dayton.craigslist.org/mob/5274867337.html

    Seems a little high on the price...
  • 10-26-2015
    soutthpaw

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by LimitedSlip7 View Post
    That's kind of what I was thinking. Big transformer machine, good luck carrying that ****er off. I really liked the Dynasty because it was more mobile in case I had a job elsewhere though.

    Lesson learned I guess. Don't just lock up your ****, REALLY lock up your ****. They used bolt cutters and stuff to get at my tools. Simple padlocks are only going to keep honest people honest.
    Get a big transformer for home, buy a budget machine like the AHP, Everlast etc for the mobile jobs. Then if it's stolen you are not out that much money. You can get both machines for about 1/3 of the cost of replacing the dynasty setup.
  • 10-26-2015
    LimitedSlip7

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by soutthpaw View Post
    Miller 330ABP's don't go missing out of garages. We should add that as another benefit of transformer machines.
    That's kind of what I was thinking. Big transformer machine, good luck carrying that ****er off. I really liked the Dynasty because it was more mobile in case I had a job elsewhere though.

    Lesson learned I guess. Don't just lock up your ****, REALLY lock up your ****. They used bolt cutters and stuff to get at my tools. Simple padlocks are only going to keep honest people honest.
  • 10-26-2015
    duaneb55

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    So sorry to hear of your misfortune.

    Check out your buddy's other friends or any acquaintances/strangers he had over recently.

    As a kid, I had a "friend" steal my tools once out of my grandfather's barn. The investigating detective asked me if anyone had been in the barn with me recently and a few hours later I had my tools back.

    Check the local pawn shops too.
  • 10-26-2015
    Willie B

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    I do wish the Dynastys were equipped with a lifting eye for a bike lock.
  • 10-25-2015
    soutthpaw

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by sparky24 View Post
    If you have the power available and a place to keep it permanently why dont you just buy a syncrowave off craigslist for 500-1000?

    After reading this I am going to up my security, i am so sorry about your tools.
    Miller 330ABP's don't go missing out of garages. We should add that as another benefit of transformer machines.
  • 10-25-2015
    Weld_

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oscar View Post
    The Dynasty 210dx seems like the ticket right now, based on features. BUT, the HTP 221 goes on sale starting November.
    Apparently it's on sale already. $200 off the regular price but not for the dual voltage model.
  • 10-25-2015
    Willie B

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    That stinks!

    I love the 280DX. I've not done fuel cells. Terry is the expert, but I've heard no mention of 4943 filler. It is stronger than 4043, melts at a lower temperature, so less distortion, and much easier wetting action. If I were you I'd ask Shovelon about 4943.
  • 10-25-2015
    Oscar

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    The Dynasty 210dx seems like the ticket right now, based on features. BUT, the HTP 221 goes on sale starting November.
  • 10-25-2015
    sparky24

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Weld_ View Post
    I am really sorry to hear about your misfortune. If you are staying within the dynasty 210 dx budget I would recommend that you look at ESAB Heliarc 281I. I believe one can be had for under $3500. And goes up to 280 A which will be very helpful for your aluminum welding. It also has a 40% duty cycle at 250 A. ESAB currently has 100 day money back guarantee. If you don't like the machine for whatever reason you can send it back and get your money.
    If you have the power available and a place to keep it permanently why dont you just buy a syncrowave off craigslist for 500-1000?

    After reading this I am going to up my security, i am so sorry about your tools.
  • 10-25-2015
    Weld_

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    I am really sorry to hear about your misfortune. If you are staying within the dynasty 210 dx budget I would recommend that you look at ESAB Heliarc 281I. I believe one can be had for under $3500. And goes up to 280 A which will be very helpful for your aluminum welding. It also has a 40% duty cycle at 250 A. ESAB currently has 100 day money back guarantee. If you don't like the machine for whatever reason you can send it back and get your money.
  • 10-25-2015
    goose hunter

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    ARE YOU SERIOUS? wtf ,bunch of rats!!!!
  • 10-25-2015
    LimitedSlip7

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Well my Dynasty 200DX was stolen two days ago along with ~$3k worth of other tools. It really ****ing sucks. Everything was in a good friends garage and I don't think that their homeowners insurance is going to cover it. I'm not sure if I want them to even make a claim as it jack up their premiums.

    I'm in the middle of a welding project that I've got a lot of money tied up into, so I don't have much of a choice except to go buy another welder. Doesn't look like there are many used welders on the market, so I'm probably going to buy new again. Any recommendations? Any deals that you know of? I noticed Miller changed their Dynasty and Syncrowave lineup a bit, what improvements have they made?

    Thanks
  • 04-22-2014
    shovelon

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Quote Originally Posted by LimitedSlip7 View Post
    I've been using 3/32" 4043 on my previous tanks, but I'm wondering if I shouldnt switch over to 5356. I weld the tanks up so that there are only two stop points on the seams and taper off to prevent any craters.

    Are you using the entire 190 amps when welding? You must be hauling ***! I haven't welded up any tanks yet with the new welder, I'll probably be starting on them tonight.

    I did hook everything up on Sat and laid a few quick beads on a 6061 coupon with 4043 filler. Welds looked good but came out a little grainy. Coupon was sanded and the filler was wiped down with acetone. Gonna play around with it tonight and try some brand new filler rod instead of the stuff that has been sitting around for a few years.
    Yes, you should definitely switch over to 5356. 4043 is way too dependent on base metal dilution for any strength. You certainly don't want to have the seam split later on. 5356 is a high strength filler, is more ductile than 4043, and exhibits some exothermic property to the puddle due to the magnesium when welding. But it holds it's shape quite well when you run hot and fast. It also will not speckle from silicon surfacing either.

    The ones we weld are 1/8th 5052 using 1/8th 5356 filler. I will PM photos to you.
  • 04-21-2014
    That Guy There

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    I'm sure he's not using the whole 190amps probably 120-140 to start the puddle then pedaling from from there.
  • 04-21-2014
    LimitedSlip7

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    I've been using 3/32" 4043 on my previous tanks, but I'm wondering if I shouldnt switch over to 5356. I weld the tanks up so that there are only two stop points on the seams and taper off to prevent any craters.

    Are you using the entire 190 amps when welding? You must be hauling ***! I haven't welded up any tanks yet with the new welder, I'll probably be starting on them tonight.

    I did hook everything up on Sat and laid a few quick beads on a 6061 coupon with 4043 filler. Welds looked good but came out a little grainy. Coupon was sanded and the filler was wiped down with acetone. Gonna play around with it tonight and try some brand new filler rod instead of the stuff that has been sitting around for a few years.
  • 04-17-2014
    shovelon

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    For what it is worth, I jumped on the Dyn200 and ran some seams on a tank. Big difference from plate. I lowered balance and increased freq. Surprisingly the increase in freq kept the cloud to a minimum, and the puddle right in the joint. Had to lower and could lower amps some more even Here is what I liked.

    1/8 5052 sheet
    1/8 5356 filler
    Amps 190
    Balance 70
    Freq 140
    Start (default) at 3/32
    #6 gas lens
    15 cfh argon
    3/32 ceriated tungsten
    Soft squarewave(again default)

    Your results may vary.
  • 04-17-2014
    That Guy There

    Re: Worth it to upgrade?

    Limitedslip: Badass fuel cells, I am sure the dynasty will serve you well, it's almost like the econotig was holding you back.. Get ready for a very fast growth!
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