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  • 09-24-2022
    smithdoor

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Yes
    That wood working or maybe cutting aluminum.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by CAVEMANN View Post
    There's places & conditions where the guard makes the tool unsafe or impossible to do the job at hand, the guards on a table saw are good examples.
  • 09-24-2022
    12345678910

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by bigb View Post
    Some years back a construction worker was drilling with a hole hog and a big auger bit when he somehow fell off the ladder and the auger bit ended up going in his eye and halfway into his head. Miraculously the bit slipped along the edge of his brain without harming it and if I recall they even saved his eye, I think the bit went alongside his eyeball instead of thru it. It was big news around here and they even put an x-ray pic in the daily paper showing the auger bit laying alongside his brain. He was pretty lucky that guy was.
    When I hired my last helper he was missing 2 front teeth, one day he told me how it happened, the hole hog got hung up and smacked him in the mouth and knocked him off his ladder. That very evening I went out and bought a Dewalt right angle drill with a clutch and took the Milwaukee non-clutched hole hog off the truck and put it away on a shelf where it has sat ever since.

    edit: OK it was 19 years ago so I didn't remember it all correctly. I thought it happened in Green Valley down the road from us but it actually happened in Truckee, CA. and the bit did go all the way thru his head and came out the back and he did lose the eye but no brain damage. https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=124814&page=1

    Can you imagine the effort that went into cleaning all the gravel out of his brain before they sewed him shut ?

    Drain tubes and IV antibiotics for him
  • 09-23-2022
    CAVEMANN

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    There's places & conditions where the guard makes the tool unsafe or impossible to do the job at hand, the guards on a table saw are good examples.
  • 09-23-2022
    smithdoor

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    I keep so no one can say { If only he had the guard on} .

    Not every accident can be prevented with guard.
    Most tools in metal work can not have guard.
    We work in a very dangerous line of work and we need to do everything to it keep safe.


    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    I confess, no guard. I believe a guard would not have helped me that day. If I shift to guards only, I'll have to throw away most of ten grinders. I did find a guard a few days after the "accident" & installed it on a 4-1/2" grinder. A day later, I found guard & hardware in the trash (#1 son).
  • 09-23-2022
    Willie B

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    I aways keep the guards so do not have outcome of Willie B .

    Dave
    I confess, no guard. I believe a guard would not have helped me that day. If I shift to guards only, I'll have to throw away most of ten grinders. I did find a guard a few days after the "accident" & installed it on a 4-1/2" grinder. A day later, I found guard & hardware in the trash (#1 son).
  • 09-23-2022
    smithdoor

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    I aways keep the guards so do not have outcome of Willie B .

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by CAVEMANN View Post
    I had a similar incident 10-15 years ago, I think I got 3 or 4 stitches from a kickback while cutting a chain link while on a step ladder. I keep the guards on whenever possible now.
  • 09-23-2022
    CAVEMANN

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by Willie B View Post
    I had three 9" Milwaukees with no guards. Among other stupid things, I put 10" diamond blades on them & cut many holes in masonry walls. I once did walk in cooler energy retrofits. It amounted in part to cutting two holes in small coolers (4 in big). I'd fit blowers in the holes & use winter air to cool 6 months of the year. Most coolers were in poured concrete, or block walls. One liquor store proved to be a former bank. Walls were 4" hardened brick, then 12" concrete blocks. Each block had two 3/4" rebar in each core & poured with concrete mixed with 3/4" quartz stone. The people working there were delighted when I finished cutting the walls.

    No injuries from those years, but this summer I put a 4-1/2" cut off disc & squeezed the trigger to test it.

    Attachment 1743798

    11 stitches, & a broken finger.
    I had a similar incident 10-15 years ago, I think I got 3 or 4 stitches from a kickback while cutting a chain link while on a step ladder. I keep the guards on whenever possible now.
  • 09-20-2022
    Willie B

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by bigb View Post
    Another dangerous tool in my opinion, is the 7" angle grinders that all the masons here use and throw the guard away so they can fit a 12" blade.
    I had three 9" Milwaukees with no guards. Among other stupid things, I put 10" diamond blades on them & cut many holes in masonry walls. I once did walk in cooler energy retrofits. It amounted in part to cutting two holes in small coolers (4 in big). I'd fit blowers in the holes & use winter air to cool 6 months of the year. Most coolers were in poured concrete, or block walls. One liquor store proved to be a former bank. Walls were 4" hardened brick, then 12" concrete blocks. Each block had two 3/4" rebar in each core & poured with concrete mixed with 3/4" quartz stone. The people working there were delighted when I finished cutting the walls.

    No injuries from those years, but this summer I put a 4-1/2" cut off disc & squeezed the trigger to test it.

    Attachment 1743798

    11 stitches, & a broken finger.
  • 09-20-2022
    bigb

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Another dangerous tool in my opinion, is the 7" angle grinders that all the masons here use and throw the guard away so they can fit a 12" blade.
  • 09-20-2022
    Willie B

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by bigb View Post
    Some years back a construction worker was drilling with a hole hog and a big auger bit when he somehow fell off the ladder and the auger bit ended up going in his eye and halfway into his head. Miraculously the bit slipped along the edge of his brain without harming it and if I recall they even saved his eye, I think the bit went alongside his eyeball instead of thru it. It was big news around here and they even put an x-ray pic in the daily paper showing the auger bit laying alongside his brain. He was pretty lucky that guy was.
    When I hired my last helper he was missing 2 front teeth, one day he told me how it happened, the hole hog got hung up and smacked him in the mouth and knocked him off his ladder. That very evening I went out and bought a Dewalt right angle drill with a clutch and took the Milwaukee non-clutched hole hog off the truck and put it away on a shelf where it has sat ever since.

    edit: OK it was 19 years ago so I didn't remember it all correctly. I thought it happened in Green Valley down the road from us but it actually happened in Truckee, CA. and the bit did go all the way thru his head and came out the back and he did lose the eye but no brain damage. https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=124814&page=1
    Hole Hog (Milwaukee) Is notorious! I doubt the outcome of the guy running a 1-1/4" 18" long auger would be different with another drill.

    First of the BIG long handle drills I saw was a Porter Cable Timber Wolf, maybe 1990? It had a clutch when in low gear. A big man wouldn't be thrown around.
    I shopped around & chose a DeWalt knock off, a great drill. I now have a Milwaukee Super Hog. It's an amp or three bigger than the DeWalt & has the clutch. All drills are dangerous & few of us are as careful as we should be.
  • 09-19-2022
    bigb

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Some years back a construction worker was drilling with a hole hog and a big auger bit when he somehow fell off the ladder and the auger bit ended up going in his eye and halfway into his head. Miraculously the bit slipped along the edge of his brain without harming it and if I recall they even saved his eye, I think the bit went alongside his eyeball instead of thru it. It was big news around here and they even put an x-ray pic in the daily paper showing the auger bit laying alongside his brain. He was pretty lucky that guy was.
    When I hired my last helper he was missing 2 front teeth, one day he told me how it happened, the hole hog got hung up and smacked him in the mouth and knocked him off his ladder. That very evening I went out and bought a Dewalt right angle drill with a clutch and took the Milwaukee non-clutched hole hog off the truck and put it away on a shelf where it has sat ever since.

    edit: OK it was 19 years ago so I didn't remember it all correctly. I thought it happened in Green Valley down the road from us but it actually happened in Truckee, CA. and the bit did go all the way thru his head and came out the back and he did lose the eye but no brain damage. https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=124814&page=1
  • 09-18-2022
    smithdoor

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    I can see that happening.
    It is a hard life.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by old miner called Pop View Post
    Welll...if this was taken in the anthracite region around here I probably have worked with some of their sons and grandsons
  • 09-18-2022
    old miner called Pop

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldiron2 View Post
    I think he wants Pictures. Pop, any chance you knew any of the Miners pictured below?

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    Welll...if this was taken in the anthracite region around here I probably have worked with some of their sons and grandsons
  • 09-18-2022
    old miner called Pop

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ford View Post
    Look at the size of the air hose running that drill![emoji44]

    Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
    I saw one of those somewhere in a mining museum years ago. Its amazing what these shovel operators find when they dig into these old workins around here...buggy wheels picks shovels shafts with gears on them tools of different types all kinds of neat stuff. Over the mountain from me in Locust Gap they found a human skull...had the state police there and evrything...I dont know what ever came out of that find. So these guys find this stuff and bring it back to the office and the superintendent will add it all to the colllection of stuff they find...kind of like a little museum outside the mine office
  • 09-17-2022
    whtbaron

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Looks bigger than the 3/4" I ordered.... must be 1 inch?
  • 09-17-2022
    smithdoor

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Hard to fall asleep doing that job.

    Quote Originally Posted by 52 Ford View Post
    Look at the size of the air hose running that drill![emoji44]

    Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
  • 09-17-2022
    smithdoor

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Wish you had a photo of drilling.

    Dave

    Quote Originally Posted by old miner called Pop View Post
    Huh? What do you mean?
  • 09-17-2022
    52 Ford

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Look at the size of the air hose running that drill![emoji44]

    Sent from my Lincoln Buzzbox using Tapatalk
  • 09-17-2022
    52 Ford

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    Geez.... he's not THAT old... LOL
    Found em!

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  • 09-17-2022
    whtbaron

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Geez.... he's not THAT old... LOL
  • 09-17-2022
    Oldiron2

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by old miner called Pop View Post
    Huh? What do you mean?
    I think he wants Pictures. Pop, any chance you knew any of the Miners pictured below?

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  • 09-17-2022
    Freebirdwelds

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by 12V71 View Post
    You just got picked to be the official Smithdoor translator.
    That's a big ask. lol
  • 09-17-2022
    12V71

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by whtbaron View Post
    Think he means he wishes you had a pic of being a human whirlygig on the drill...probably need video to get the full effect though...
    You just got picked to be the official Smithdoor translator.
  • 09-17-2022
    whtbaron

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Think he means he wishes you had a pic of being a human whirlygig on the drill...probably need video to get the full effect though...
  • 09-17-2022
    old miner called Pop

    Re: Most Dangerous Tool

    Quote Originally Posted by smithdoor View Post
    Wish you photo .

    Dave
    Huh? What do you mean?
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