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Re: Black & decker

Originally Posted by smithdoor

It was cheaper to move
Keeps profit up
Maybe next stop China low labor cost just $1.00 hour and state run healthcare.

Just think all jobs lost from 1960's. From manufacturing to repair. Just think of last time a TV repairman came out to home. Let's blame the other part.

At least Black & decker is coming back

Dave

Our world has become a throw-away world, everything is so cheap we just replace it when it breaks, and that's reflected in the quality.

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Do not worry the governor of California is planing on banding sale of gas car in next 15 years.
We all know Newscum is a complete MORON LEFTIST PIECE OF SCHIT.l

I've read that in the not too far off future the technology will be in place to capture electricity from the air to power our daily needs and wants, it's kind of scary to me to think about that kind of power floating around us all the time.
New Britain hand tools were/are the premium line of mechanics tools that NAPA carries/carried.

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It was cheaper to move
Keeps profit up
Maybe next stop China low labor cost just $1.00 hour and state run healthcare.

Just think all jobs lost from 1960's. From manufacturing to repair. Just think of last time a TV repairman came out to home. Let's blame the other part.

At least Black & decker is coming back

Dave

Originally Posted by Louie1961

I used to live in New Britain CT, the original home of Stanley Tool Works. Its a shame what they did to that town. Took out all the jobs, and left a brownfield mess.

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Try this for battery welding
It takes 24 volts and 150 amps for one hour of welding.
For 8 hour day that is 16 batteries @ 125 pounds each for total weight of backpack welder 2,000 pounds.
It charge around 400 times

Sounds great

The battery on link below is 12 volt 200 amp under best condition. So it will 2 batteries

Do not worry the governor of California is planing on banding sale of gas car in next 15 years.

I guess a backpack welder is up and coming.

I wonder what will happen to all the dead batteries.
I know we can send to China land fill.

Dave

https://docs.google.com/gview?embedd...D45%40AdobeOrg

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I used to live in New Britain CT, the original home of Stanley Tool Works. Its a shame what they did to that town. Took out all the jobs, and left a brownfield mess.

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The drawback to Nikola Tesla was how charge for power.

You can get power from power company with in connection.
But they pay big fines when power companies finds out.

Dave

Originally Posted by N2 Welding

battery would be very light and compact. Not big enough to supply the voltage/amperage but have enough power to connect with the power source wirelessly so you can make adjustments on the fly etc. the earth and air would supply the welding current. It’s all science fiction as far as everyone knows but Nicola was working on WiFi electricity.

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Originally Posted by N2 Welding

battery would be very light and compact. Not big enough to supply the voltage/amperage but have enough power to connect with the power source wirelessly so you can make adjustments on the fly etc. the earth and air would supply the welding current. It’s all science fiction as far as everyone knows but Nicola was working on WiFi electricity.

I'll go ahead and work on that for you. Need something to think about when I drive anyway

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Originally Posted by smithdoor

I would like see a battery for welding all day.
Maybe size of sub battery make in backpack.

I do not think most realise how much tools need

Dave

battery would be very light and compact. Not big enough to supply the voltage/amperage but have enough power to connect with the power source wirelessly so you can make adjustments on the fly etc. the earth and air would supply the welding current. It’s all science fiction as far as everyone knows but Nicola was working on WiFi electricity.

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I would like see a battery for welding all day.
Maybe size of sub battery make in backpack.

I do not think most realise how much tools need

Dave

Originally Posted by N2 Welding

If Tesla Technology was not suppressed we would have no need for long cables. It'd all be wifi with low freq battery operated receivers to conduct from source to work. Welding and almost every thing about all of today's society would be a whole different lifestyle. Blame the suppressors of information for many of today's problems. Fear of something or wisdom of the other. One way or another there is a reason any time you ask your self what's really going on and you feel it in your gut nothing about today is normal or right!

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I have Dewatl 20volt
If I am drilling all time it last almost 1 1/2 hour.
Think more how must it used.
I have use hand drills 8 to 10 hours and only time the drill stops is at break.

Dave

Originally Posted by DavidR8

You need to try the 20v line from Ridgid.
I used a Ridgid impact driver on a single battery charge for two solid days framing and sheeting the inside of my shop.


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Originally Posted by smithdoor

What about welding cables.
Welding cables are like water houses.

I only have cordless drill for light drilling .
If try using batteries for hand tools it take boat load per day.

Dave

If Tesla Technology was not suppressed we would have no need for long cables. It'd all be wifi with low freq battery operated receivers to conduct from source to work. Welding and almost every thing about all of today's society would be a whole different lifestyle. Blame the suppressors of information for many of today's problems. Fear of something or wisdom of the other. One way or another there is a reason any time you ask your self what's really going on and you feel it in your gut nothing about today is normal or right!

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It's a sad day when you can buy a new cordless 1/2 inch 20v LION tool with 2 batteries & charger on sale for 99 bucks & a new battery of the same capacity is about 70 bucks. I don't remember what the capacity of the larger replacement batteries is, but they run 120 or 130 bucks.

Black & decker

Originally Posted by smithdoor

What about welding cables.
Welding cables are like water houses.

I only have cordless drill for light drilling .
If try using batteries for hand tools it take boat load per day.

Dave

You need to try the 20v line from Ridgid.
I used a Ridgid impact driver on a single battery charge for two solid days framing and sheeting the inside of my shop.


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What about welding cables.
Welding cables are like water houses.

I only have cordless drill for light drilling .
If try using batteries for hand tools it take boat load per day.

Dave

Originally Posted by farmersammm

But.......I'm still nursing a pulled groin after tripping over an extension cord................ Batteries mighta saved me on that one.

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But.......I'm still nursing a pulled groin after tripping over an extension cord................ Batteries mighta saved me on that one.

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I'm the moron I've always been Anything to do with heavy duty use aka metal.............it has to have a cord, or I won't buy it. And..........I suppose it has to be corded when I work with wood too. I'm a f'n dinosaur.

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I just got back from Sacramento where I purchased a Dewalt 20v Brushed DCF885 1/4" impact screw gun and 5AH battery for $50.00 I can't complain. It works and the battery was cheaper for the cost of a new battery which is great for me. Cheap battery and free tool with it. Woo hoo. Score.

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I agree
My Wildcat was hard for most employees handle and let get way two different employees it took out there zipper.
Later my 9" Wildcat ran away one night.
Today for my own used is 4½" Dewalt and a case of disks too.

Dave

Originally Posted by Josey

Black and decker Used to be the best power tools you could buy. I have two 9'' angle grinders and a Wildcat
Heavy duty drill. Bought in the UK back in the 1970s Used hard for farm repair and fabrication. Only repair ever needed
new brushes. But now B & D is cheap imported rubbish. I bought a new 9" angle grinder on e bay. Smoked it the first time I used it. The seller knew they were poor quality Gave my money back. and said don't bother to return it
I suppose it's much the same now with all the one time proven brand names. I was looking at a bosh Grinder in
Princess auto and it said on the box Made in China I have a lot of older German Made Bosh tools and like the old B&D
Last for ever

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Black and decker Used to be the best power tools you could buy. I have two 9'' angle grinders and a Wildcat
Heavy duty drill. Bought in the UK back in the 1970s Used hard for farm repair and fabrication. Only repair ever needed
new brushes. But now B & D is cheap imported rubbish. I bought a new 9" angle grinder on e bay. Smoked it the first time I used it. The seller knew they were poor quality Gave my money back. and said don't bother to return it
I suppose it's much the same now with all the one time proven brand names. I was looking at a bosh Grinder in
Princess auto and it said on the box Made in China I have a lot of older German Made Bosh tools and like the old B&D
Last for ever

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I would hope they both come back
Black and Decker and Dewalt merge together.
Now the home owner line is Black and Decker
The Dewalt is heavy duty line.
At time all my tools where the industrial line of Black and Decker

Now they are Dewalt The only tools I have left that is Black and Decker is 3/4" mag drill and a 1/2" right angle drill.
Both are tanks not for weak

They both where the tank of hand power tools. I no longer by Black and Decker.
Today it is only Dewalt

Sounds like good news for all american.

Thank you for update ☺️
Dave

Originally Posted by CAVEMANN

My wife read an article a couple of days ago about BLACK & DECKER, apparently they are coming back to the U.S. & building a new plant, I think she said in Texas. I know DeWalt is owned by B&D or vice versa & I think they are also Chinese, I wonder if that means DeWalt is coming back too?

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Originally Posted by CAVEMANN

I've had batteries that didn't work after 3 or 4 charges, I've started buying the higher capacity batteries & they seem better, mine's strictly home use & probably don't get used like they need to be.

I had similar experiences with their early lithium batteries. All my batteries powered tool for work with bigger packs have been great.

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Originally Posted by tapwelder

What issues have you had?

I've had batteries that didn't work after 3 or 4 charges, I've started buying the higher capacity batteries & they seem better, mine's strictly home use & probably don't get used like they need to be.

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The Dewalt lion 20v max in brushed tools are what I'm talking about, although it does seem like the higher capacity batteries are better, I also know that some of it is me, I just don't use them like I used to.

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Originally Posted by N2 Welding

The older NiCad 18/12v batteries are junk in any tool. They have memory and don’t last through the winter if they sit unused for too long. The newer Dewalt Li 20v batteries are way better as are the XR brushless tools. I have several now and love them.

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