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Powerstroke having battery or starter issues possibly.

Originally Posted by farmersammm

So now it turns over nicely but won't start??????????

Who Knows….

Deciphering Moto’s posts is like trying to translate the Dead Sea Scrolls.

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So now it turns over nicely but won't start??????????

Has anybody pulled the codes on this thing? Probably a dead end, but might not be. https://www.superdutypsd.com/codes.php

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Originally Posted by BaTu

Well, again,,, depends on whether or not his '01 has the '02s electrics (not sure that was ever established...).

Pre '01 the CPS showed cranking rpm on the Tach. All 02-3's do not. Some 0'1s have 2000 electrics and some have '02 electrics (the new cluster, now a module, can't tell you anything about CPS function anymore)

Our 03 E series showed RPMS, and I think our later E series with the 6.0 also showed RPMS while cranking, IIRC. N2, I don't know on the gas motors.

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Does the tach operate as mentioned only on diesel engine trucks?

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Well, again,,, depends on whether or not his '01 has the '02s electrics (not sure that was ever established...).

Pre '01 the CPS showed cranking rpm on the Tach. All 02-3's do not. Some 0'1s have 2000 electrics and some have '02 electrics (the new cluster, now a module, can't tell you anything about CPS function anymore)

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moto, if the truck does not start, does the tachometer register while cranking, if not, you've probably got a bad cam sensor.
@bcguide, I forgot he had a manual tranny.

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Originally Posted by motolife313

I had it tested off the truck, Just a bench test. It did spin fast, I heard it back there but there was no load on the starter so spinning just the starter is easy. He said it passed but I was sure it was bad which it was

Yup

Testing without a load is pointless

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I had it tested off the truck, Just a bench test. It did spin fast, I heard it back there but there was no load on the starter so spinning just the starter is easy. He said it passed but I was sure it was bad which it was

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Originally Posted by IAMsteelworker

First things first charge both batteries unhooked from the truck. Then take them to get tested. If they check out good and you think it's the starter take it off and have it tested. If thats good check the solenoid and all the wires going to batteries,grounds, solenoid and starter. If one battery is bad replace BOTH, not just one. That will kill your one good battery you didn't replace.

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This is what I do.

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Caveman
Your not wrong.
It's just on a powerstroke with a manual transmission if the alternator is not charging properly at an idle you may not notice it. With an automatic transmission you know right away because the transmission won't work properly.

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Originally Posted by whtbaron

There might be some gears slipping, but I don't think they're in the diff...

I’m going to check my u joints. The tire did move a lot when I had it in the air a while back.

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I took the good used battery back and got the money back and bought two new batteries. My cables and terminals look pretty new. Thanks for the help

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Moto, get in a good parts store, you can get GOOD military style cable ends that are made correctly for the terminals, you can also get copper lugs to crimp or solder on, I would go this route on my vehicle and did the Ambulance cables this way. This style terminal gives you a good high quality clamp that has a bolt for adding cables an wires as needed. What everyone is telling you about replacing both batteries is SPOT ON, a battery that is going bad will suck th juice(and life) from a new/good battery, as far as the statement made about bad batteries ruining the starter, I disagree unless it's done over an extended period of time. FYI, that Powerstroke has a minimum cranking speed before the ECM will trigger the injector to deliver fuel, I think it's 100 RPM'S IIRC. I spent over 13 years repairing and fixing 7.3 Powerstrokes so I do have a little experience.

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Originally Posted by motolife313

Been driving my girlfriends Toyota echo and that little thing is pretty zippy around town. I need to do my front steering system next. I’m planning on getting all the parts from rock auto and get moog parts. I think my rear end is going too. I can feel it slip a little sometimes after letting the clutch out then putting my foot on the pedal and after accelerating there’s a small dead spot. Might just need new gears not sure. Probably a good time and chance to step it up a gear ratio. I think it’s 3:73 now which works pretty good but little lower would be nice

There might be some gears slipping, but I don't think they're in the diff...

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Been driving my girlfriends Toyota echo and that little thing is pretty zippy around town. I need to do my front steering system next. I’m planning on getting all the parts from rock auto and get moog parts. I think my rear end is going too. I can feel it slip a little sometimes after letting the clutch out then putting my foot on the pedal and after accelerating there’s a small dead spot. Might just need new gears not sure. Probably a good time and chance to step it up a gear ratio. I think it’s 3:73 now which works pretty good but little lower would be nice

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Better check your exhaust charcoal cannister. That kick may have busted the charcoal contained in the mystical catalytic converter :/

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Turned over very fast with the new starter. Even heard it kick exhaust out the header somewhere it turned over so fast lol

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you guys realize you are talking to the wall right?

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These are my pet peeve. If I saw them on a truck it would be the first thing I'd fix.
Next I'd check that your alternator is charging at an idle.
A bad alt will with batteries not fully charged will ruin your starter.

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I guess....

But that's why I tell people that there's no such thing as a 2001 wiring diagram, figure out which version you have and use either a 2000 or a 2002

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Originally Posted by BaTu

Not to nit-pic

But he says he has an '01 and some '01's do have that starter relay under the hood, and some don't (post #18 & 21).

I think everything else's been said before, not sure it's getting through though...

wasn't aware of that....wonder if they were late 2001 production

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Originally Posted by bigb

As far as all the talk about the solenoid, 2001 has a fender mounted solenoid which only costs a few bucks, starting in 2002 it went to an ice cube relay under the dash.

Not to nit-pic

But he says he has an '01 and some '01's do have that starter relay under the hood, and some don't (post #18 & 21).

I think everything else's been said before, not sure it's getting through though...

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Check the big 4/0 wire that leaves the passenger side battery and heads to the starter, The cable assembly on these trucks does not last forever, if there is corrosion on that 4/0 cable you can bet it runs several inches into the end where you can't see it and you can have brand new fully charged batteries but not enough current will reach the starter. The cable assembly is discontinued by Ford and choices are aftermarket which AFAIK only 1 company makes and real pricey, or make your own.
As far as all the talk about the solenoid, 2001 has a fender mounted solenoid which only costs a few bucks, starting in 2002 it went to an ice cube relay under the dash.
As far as battery replacement, always replace both batteries at the same time with the same batteries in a dual battery system, even the owner's manual will tell you that.

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Moto............... this is the last I gotta say on the matter https://www.freeasestudyguides.com/e...%20read%20zero.

Quit messin' around, and do a proper test. It's about as easy as falling off a log.

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Originally Posted by N2 Welding

Distributor has nothing to do with the starter. Never heard that one before.

Ok maybe it’s ignition to the positive post on the battery lol and then it will fire if you turn the starter or bump start a stick shift