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Re: New york wheel

i've worked off skyclimber scaffolds,welded off wood and rope floats and bosun's chairs and even been under the 59th st bridge roadway but no way would i pay to ride that wheel. the last time i sat in a roller coaster i felt like kicking myself as soon as it started moving.

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Originally Posted by thegary

So you have no problem paying for its construction and then paying again to ride it. Amazing! Its like paying for a football stadium and then buying season tickets to go see the games. Government is not here to entertain us nor are they hear to sell us stuff. Leave business to its own.

Unfortunately thats basically how every bridge in the vicinity of NYC works too.

The Verizano into staten island was supposed to be free once it was paid off... Its one of the most if not the most expensive bridges to cross in the state.

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Originally Posted by John T

Although I'd NEVER get on it, I don't see it as "stupidity" at all....

Life is short, People want to enjoy themselves and have a thrill.... why not?

As long as it's "safe" ..... go for it.

Yes. it's a ridiculous concept.... but this is the good old USA..... WTF.

for the price of admission... It will pay for itself. ....... someday.

So you have no problem paying for its construction and then paying again to ride it. Amazing! Its like paying for a football stadium and then buying season tickets to go see the games. Government is not here to entertain us nor are they hear to sell us stuff. Leave business to its own.

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And here I was thinking this thread was going to be about some variation on an English Wheel...

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Originally Posted by VaughnT

Fancy talk, but there aren't enough welders, certs, or tests that'd ever convince me to ride in something that tall! I love the pics of the pieces being welded up, but I'll keep my feet on terra firma just in case.

I'll one up your fear of riding it.

If it got stuck and there was an emergency at the top, someone has to climb it and lower the victim and themselves back down on a rope the thickness of your pinky.

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Originally Posted by Welder Dave

I was more wondering why the vertical gussets are cut at 45 deg's. where they connect to the rings instead of extended out to the end?

The arrows in red are the 45 degrees you mean I think. if you weld the corners closed, the tension will sit in the corners and cannot flow away. that is one of the reasons that this is done at high yield strength steel.

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Originally Posted by thegary

it always amazes me at the stupidity people in power can dream up to wast tax $. .

Although I'd NEVER get on it, I don't see it as "stupidity" at all....

Life is short, People want to enjoy themselves and have a thrill.... why not?

As long as it's "safe" ..... go for it.

Yes. it's a ridiculous concept.... but this is the good old USA..... WTF.

for the price of admission... It will pay for itself. ....... someday.

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Originally Posted by denlow60

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this is the top view

I was more wondering why the vertical gussets are cut at 45 deg's. where they connect to the rings instead of extended out to the end?

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Originally Posted by denlow60

what you see here at the arrows is the liquid that is used for magnetic examined (MPT) flowing down.

all welds are 100% UT and MPT examined. there are always welding faults that are repaired within the tolerance of the spec AWS D1.1 and NYC Chapter 17 - 2014

it's funny that someone sees something and draws a conclusion.

No worries man, it was just an amusement park ride joke Glad to hear that all welds are examined in your case though.

In my state of MN the rides are running with broken welds opening and closing as the rides go around...running joke around here.

I actually have stopped over to attendants between riders getting on and off and pointed out glaring open broken welds and they just shrug...

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Originally Posted by denlow60

all welds are 100% UT and MPT examined. there are always welding faults that are repaired within the tolerance of the spec AWS D1.1 and NYC Chapter 17 - 2014

Fancy talk, but there aren't enough welders, certs, or tests that'd ever convince me to ride in something that tall! I love the pics of the pieces being welded up, but I'll keep my feet on terra firma just in case.

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Now if they had used airfoils instead of spokes, it could be wind-driven and power Manhattan...

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Originally Posted by Welder Dave

Looks like a lot of money was already spent on basically a contender in a pizzing contest. Not unlike the tallest buildings. More of an expensive novelty than anything else. Lots of high quality welding though. Curious why the vertical gussets are cut at a 45 and don't come to point, less chance for cracking?

Amusement rides here are now heavily inspected after the Mindbender roller coaster accident that resulted in 3 fatalities. I was the welding supervisor at the mall for about a year in 2007 and did some welding on the coaster. A big part of the problem was they never translated the German maintainence manuals to English. The designer suffered a heart attack when he heard people had died on his ride. The coaster originally used 4 cars but was reduced to 3 to slow it down some. New bogie assemblies were designed that had had cotter pins and castle nuts to prevent the bolts from coming out. There's a dent in one the large H beam supports where the car hit it.

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Looks like a lot of money was already spent on basically a contender in a pizzing contest. Not unlike the tallest buildings. More of an expensive novelty than anything else. Lots of high quality welding though. Curious why the vertical gussets are cut at a 45 and don't come to point, less chance for cracking?

Amusement rides here are now heavily inspected after the Mindbender roller coaster accident that resulted in 3 fatalities. I was the welding supervisor at the mall for about a year in 2007 and did some welding on the coaster. A big part of the problem was they never translated the German maintainence manuals to English. The designer suffered a heart attack when he heard people had died on his ride. The coaster originally used 4 cars but was reduced to 3 to slow it down some. New bogie assemblies were designed that had had cotter pins and castle nuts to prevent the bolts from coming out. There's a dent in one the large H beam supports where the car hit it.

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Originally Posted by MinnesotaDave

It's an amusement park ride - pre-cracked for worker convenience...

what you see here at the arrows is the liquid that is used for magnetic examined (MPT) flowing down.

all welds are 100% UT and MPT examined. there are always welding faults that are repaired within the tolerance of the spec AWS D1.1 and NYC Chapter 17 - 2014

it's funny that someone sees something and draws a conclusion.

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Originally Posted by acourtjester

I'm staying of the ground

Originally Posted by denlow60

All Cracks

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It's an amusement park ride - pre-cracked for worker convenience...

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Originally Posted by dmcnally

The Empire State Building is 1,200' to the top, 1,400 to the tip.

That Ferris wheel would be 1/2 the height of the Empire State Building, or as high as a 40-45 story building.

Dave

but in 2017, this Ferris wheel would be the tallest in the world,
if it were to be finished. now you have one in Dubai that has become the highest.

Dennis

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Originally Posted by denlow60

and the New York wheel would be 623 feet high.

The Empire State Building is 1,200' to the top, 1,400 to the tip.

That Ferris wheel would be 1/2 the height of the Empire State Building, or as high as a 40-45 story building.

Dave

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the New York wheel would be 623 feet high.

Not anymore its not. Just a pipe dream now I think.

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It doesn't matter to me if it comes or not. No way in hell I'd get on it. Way too high. I don't care if it's welded perfect.

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Originally Posted by acourtjester

I'm staying of the ground

All Cracks

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I'm staying of the ground

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Originally Posted by Louie1961

Looks just like the London Eye. Same company. https://www.mammoet.com/cases/LondonEye/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Eye

Yes you are right it is the same company.
but the london eye was 328 feet high.
and the New York wheel would be 623 feet high.

i would like to know if a new company has been appointed to proceed with this project.

Here are a few pictures of what we've been working on.

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Looks just like the London Eye. Same company. https://www.mammoet.com/cases/LondonEye/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Eye

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Originally Posted by denlow60

these are some more photo

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it always amazes me at the stupidity people in power can dream up to wast tax $. These are the same people that want the feds to bail them out from their past wast of money, time and resources.

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Originally Posted by BrooklynBravest

Unfortunately i believe the project is on hold, if not indefinitely, prior to the pandemic.

NYC is hurting very badly right now and it was an astronomically priced project. Hundreds of millions if i recall if not approaching a billion.

I work for the fire department and we were actually testing 300’ tall bronto sky lift trucks as precautionary measures for emergencies involving the 600 foot tall wheel. Basically they would take a mobile crane platform with a giant bucket lift on it and throw lights/sirens onto it. Would have been pretty cool.

Yes it has been discontinued, New York state had a falling out with the contractor Mammoet and also a lawsuit in 2017

do you know more about this project because material and parts of this project are stored at the company where I was a shop inspector for a client of state New York?