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Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by mreuter

I did see your video on the invertig 400 before I pulled the trigger on it and yes, I watch Jimbo's garage and his wall off HTP welders. I like yours because of the detailed functionality and I like Jimbo's because he is showing the capabilities of this product. I also watched the "The Fabrication Series" about the HTP 221 and found interesting that he mentioned on the end that off all welders he has for testing, this HTP 221 is "always plugged in" (hint hint) Of course he cannot officially say that the HTP is his favorite without loosing business with the other manufacturers. I use the Invertig an 50 amp 240 single phase but it is more than enough. I like to compare this machine with a car engine. You can have allot of horsepower but no torque. The HTP has so much more torque than any other welder with the same horsepower.

Yup, that's Jimbo's full-time job so he definitely gets to put out good content. I'm stuck in an office Mon-Fri so my hobby/fab time is limited. Oh well. I'm not complaining But yea, I do need to catch up with a few more videos and what not. I'm sending you a PM incase you want to join my HTP Group chat on your mobile device.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by Oscar

Nice! You have it on 3-Φ power? I assume you're talking about Jimbo's garage on YouTube? Yea he's got a nice collection. I still think mine is better.

I did see your video on the invertig 400 before I pulled the trigger on it and yes, I watch Jimbo's garage and his wall off HTP welders. I like yours because of the detailed functionality and I like Jimbo's because he is showing the capabilities of this product. I also watched the "The Fabrication Series" about the HTP 221 and found interesting that he mentioned on the end that off all welders he has for testing, this HTP 221 is "always plugged in" (hint hint) Of course he cannot officially say that the HTP is his favorite without loosing business with the other manufacturers. I use the Invertig an 50 amp 240 single phase but it is more than enough. I like to compare this machine with a car engine. You can have allot of horsepower but no torque. The HTP has so much more torque than any other welder with the same horsepower.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by mreuter

I just received my Invertig 400 and what a beast of a welder it is. I already own the 300 ProPulse from HTP what was a huge investment for me but the HTP ProPulse 300 is an incredible Aluminum MIG welder and as mentioned before, HTP has really incredible customer service. I had a big learning curve to overcome with Aluminum MIG and HTP support was available for me almost 24/7, answering every question and resolving all my beginners learn to Aluminum MIG weld hurdles. The quality of the product and the service provided made me invest again in the HTP Invertig 400 and I can not be more happy with my decision. Years ago I wondered why I always see welding youtube videos and the welder has a wall of HTP welders and I found this funny first but now I understand. My only portable welder left is the ESAB 205 AC/DC I bought before the 300 Pulse from HTP and I keep it for portability but one day I exchange it for a HTP 221.

Nice! You have it on 3-Φ power? I assume you're talking about Jimbo's garage on YouTube? Yea he's got a nice collection. I still think mine is better.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Thanks for taking the time to compliment us on our customer service and the quality of our products!

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

I just received my Invertig 400 and what a beast of a welder it is. I already own the 300 ProPulse from HTP what was a huge investment for me but the HTP ProPulse 300 is an incredible Aluminum MIG welder and as mentioned before, HTP has really incredible customer service. I had a big learning curve to overcome with Aluminum MIG and HTP support was available for me almost 24/7, answering every question and resolving all my beginners learn to Aluminum MIG weld hurdles. The quality of the product and the service provided made me invest again in the HTP Invertig 400 and I can not be more happy with my decision. Years ago I wondered why I always see welding youtube videos and the welder has a wall of HTP welders and I found this funny first but now I understand. My only portable welder left is the ESAB 205 AC/DC I bought before the 300 Pulse from HTP and I keep it for portability but one day I exchange it for a HTP 221.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by htpamerica_usaweld

Cant wait to watch it!

Surely y'all got 3-Φ power there in your shop area, right?!?! Would be a shame if you didn't!

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Cant wait to watch it!

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

I too went from an Everlast to an HTP221. While I haven't used the HTP enough to comment on longevity, I am very glad I chose not to support communist China with my purchase, since they have wrecked havoc with our lives and collectively cost us trillions in damages. My purchases going forward will be based on the same consideration.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Some video coming soon full-tilt 400A.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by bcmyers21

how about you send me a green and red to put to the test and do an honest comparison of.

I'm sure they'll send you a red one, no problem what so ever. Have your CC ready, lol.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Since it sounds like both welders are equivalent, how about you send me a green and red to put to the test and do an honest comparison of. I have a few aluminum rod holder projects in the works I can test them on. The real comparison of the machines should be done behind a hood, not on paper.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by TJS

You can have the best customer service in the world but if you don't have a good product you don't have squat. I am an HTP customer and I am biased and I don't care. Here is the deal.
My Htp MIG 240 has been going strong since 2002 and I beat the snot out of it (I think I replaced the liner once just because). My HTP micro cut 380 is still doing great since 2002 as well and all I did to that was replace the torch head last month. I hope to replace my Dyn 300DX with a Htp Invertig 400 in a year or so.

I agree, but if you have a product of questionable quality and durability, your customer service goes a long way in carrying the day. On the other hand, if you have a quality product, you will probably do well even if your customer service is lacking because you have a quality product. Here, we seem to have the polar opposite of this. We have a company with a questionable product that is lacking in customer service as opposed to HTP which has very reliable products and their customer service is superb...

Anyway, that's my take on all of this....

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by metalman21

You are the best salesman for your competitors. You are one of the reasons, (there were more), that I dismissed the consideration of purchasing one of your machines.
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agree.

seems like his nonsense has been going on for years..... Blah Blah blah...

most times I just skip over the drivel.

and yeah, I'm very happy with my HTP221 not many HTP owners have any bad words about them.

neverlast? thats a different story

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by TJS

You can have the best customer service in the world but if you don't have a good product you don't have squat. I am an HTP customer and I am biased and I don't care. Here is the deal.
My Htp MIG 240 has been going strong since 2002 and I beat the snot out of it (I think I replaced the liner once just because). My HTP micro cut 380 is still doing great since 2002 as well and all I did to that was replace the torch head last month. I hope to replace my Dyn 300DX with a Htp Invertig 400 in a year or so.

Nice work on the Cobra intake manifold!

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

You can have the best customer service in the world but if you don't have a good product you don't have squat. I am an HTP customer and I am biased and I don't care. Here is the deal.
My Htp MIG 240 has been going strong since 2002 and I beat the snot out of it (I think I replaced the liner once just because). My HTP micro cut 380 is still doing great since 2002 as well and all I did to that was replace the torch head last month. I hope to replace my Dyn 300DX with a Htp Invertig 400 in a year or so.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks

Joe,

I am a customer in that regard also and will even note, HTP pays shipping for all orders over $35 which is more than fair, considering that companies like Everlast don't even pay shipping if you buy a machine from them.

Yep and their 12020-F Flowmeter is a good example...

needed to replace my cheap lotos regulator that would stick and also stop flow on a really full new tank.



regular price $89.95

on sale for $35

and they shipped it free.

No leaks nice quality. Happy camper.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by TraditionalToolworks

Joe,

I am a customer in that regard also and will even note, HTP pays shipping for all orders over $35 which is more than fair, considering that companies like Everlast don't even pay shipping if you buy a machine from them.

I can't say enough good things about them. Their prices are competitive, everyone I have dealt with by phone or email has been nothing but pleasant and patient with me and a real desire to help. Jeff set's the tone and all his people follow his lead. It is a blueprint that all companies should follow with regards to customer service. Quite frankly, in this competitive environment, customer service is what sets most companies apart. My hard earned dollars go to the people/companies that value me as a customer like HTP.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by jbacc

For the record, I do not own any HTP machines but I buy equipment and consumables from them.

Joe,

I am a customer in that regard also and will even note, HTP pays shipping for all orders over $35 which is more than fair, considering that companies like Everlast don't even pay shipping if you buy a machine from them.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by Oscar

So did they? Told 'em to get on the ball!

They did call (I missed the call) and emailed. It seemed the general consensus was that HTP has good support, which is one of the reasons I gave them a shot. They seem very responsive so far.

I don't generally give much weight to reviews from anyone with a sig full of the same brand machine (of any type), for reasons obvious in this thread.

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I have no dog in this fight but Jeff Noland and HTP have the best customer service of any company I have ever done business with. For the record, I do not own any HTP machines but I buy equipment and consumables from them. I recently purchased a conversion kit for my Hobart 120 Handler with original piece maker mig gun. I had several questions and sent an email to HTP. Jeff answered every question I had including some of the emails I sent late at night. In fact, I joked with him asking if he ever sleeps. I needed some nozzles for my Bernard Q series mig gun on my Miller 252 which were available from other vendors. I sent Jeff an email asking if they stocked them which they did not. However, he offered to order them and the price was competitive with other vendors. This was a small order but Jeff and his staff went out of their way to assist me as if I was their best customer....

As stated, Jeff Noland is a stand up guy who deserves my business.

Joe

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by metalman21

You are the best salesman for your competitors. You are one of the reasons, (there were more), that I dismissed the consideration of purchasing one of your machines.

That could not be truer from a prospective customer perspective. More so as time goes on we see more and more dead Everlast machines, more than one would expect to see. Nobody has to believe me, they can go search the web to find there are many unhappy customers that found out they needed to pay shipping both ways for service, but more so that the cost of a new pc board was much more than they would have expected for the price of the machine. Look at Jeff Nolan's message above, whoever that person was didn't feel compelled to fix his $2500 machine.

Now, Mark is always quick to jump in and say that every brand has experienced problems and all of them have unhappy customers. What I will say to that is, where are all the unhappy HTP customers? Where are all the failed HTP machines? Because I don't hear about failed HTP machines like I hear about failed Everlast machines. But where are those disgruntled HTP customers? Most everyone who owns one raves about it. This completely discredits what he claims. Everlast is very much like Grizzly. They offer more features at the least expensive price point. Very difficult to find more features for the price of the Everlast machines. If you get a working machine this is good, but if your machine dies it sucks. Unfortunately there are more dead machines than one would expect.

Originally Posted by metalman21

Your posts that attempt to knock the competition are very predictable (and entertaining), usually debating very inconsequential details. The defensive attitude speaks volumes with regard to the credibility of the organization you work for and it's reputation. That is the stigma associated with your brand.

Rather than trying to improve their failure rate, they focus more on advertising and marketing. Having their welders at Home Depot is a perfect example. All of their machines are full list price on Home Depot, and they are all special order. You don't see those welders in Home Depots, they don't exist. Most buyers are privy to that, although I'm sure they do get some sales. You don't see them selling on Amazon anymore as they don't like to pay Amazon for their sales, and they have the good reviews as they were able to get any bad reviews removed, so they used their marketing muscle to make it look the best they could.

What they do have is a machine that is less than half the cost of the Invertig 400 which on the surface appears to be almost as good. This is attractive to people, who doesn't want a machine at less than half the cost that appears to deliver almost the same? As for more electronic wave forms, what good do they really do someone if their machine is dead?

DISCLAIMER: I'm not even an HTP customer, but hope to be one someday. Jeff Nolan goes out of his way to help his customer base, even on weekends. At the end of the day service and support is worth it's weight in gold, not to mention reliability and HTP has a reputation for being a reliable machine.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

I can't find the popcorn eating emoji!
50 amps of input power to get 350 and splitting hairs over 3 amp input differnce? Load bank both the boxes with a meter on the input power, make a video....Claimed/rated whatever, it's a number. Then again does it really even matter?

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by lugweld

Hey you guys are our best salesmen when you act like that and we defend ourselves.

You are the best salesman for your competitors. You are one of the reasons, (there were more), that I dismissed the consideration of purchasing one of your machines.
Your posts that attempt to knock the competition are very predictable (and entertaining), usually debating very inconsequential details. The defensive attitude speaks volumes with regard to the credibility of the organization you work for and it's reputation. That is the stigma associated with your brand.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by lugweld

I think your reading comprehension is not what mine is. I did quite well in school.

Well, there you go, you're a lot smarter than me, probably why you're supporting Everlast welders. This is typical of your people skills, which they must not have taught you in school for public relations.

This is exactly why I'll never buy another green weenie again. 'nuff said.

Re: HTP's NEW INVERTIG 400

Originally Posted by metalman21

The lugweld late show! Always good for a laugh.

Hey you guys are our best salesmen when you act like that and we defend ourselves.