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Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander What nice about the radial arm saw motor is I can put the multi tool belt grinder on one side and a drill chuck on the other side which i can use for either a disc or drum sander attachment. Its also a 2 HP motor with 3500 RPM which is ideal unless I'm mistaken. Its almost too perfect. I definitely need to try that out. I also have two of those motors, i could make two grinders or have one for a spare motor.
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Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander I think i might just get the multi tool attachment. After thinking it over i think it will work on my RA saw motor. And i could use it in the vertical position like i would prefer. All i need is to make an adaptor so it would bolt onto the part that the blade guard usually bolts onto. I'm sure it will work but if not I'll get a good bench grinder because mine bogs down easily.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Lis2323 Generally speaking any belt size is available but without a doubt the major belt manufacturers offer the greatest variety of grit/composition selections in 2”x72”. IMO Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Thanks. something to consider.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Lis2323 No idea but import motors generally have exaggerated HP ratings. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Eastwwod does have a return policy. (If any item* is not satisfactory, you may return it for a full product refund (less S&H) within 60 days ofreceipt.) Maybe i should try out their grinder. Its the cheapest option i have found so far. It might get me by until i get funds and time to build a 2x72 grinder. I can go that rout or buy the multi tool brand attachment for grinders. I don't know but its something to think about.
Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Generally speaking any belt size is available but without a doubt the major belt manufacturers offer the greatest variety of grit/composition selections in 2”x72”. And probably the best grinding cost value can be had from using a 2x72 machine. IMO Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Help me choose a belt grinder and sander
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Need Advice This eastwood belt grinder is cheap, its only $200, but i wonder if it will bog down under a load. https://www.eastwood.com/1-2hp-8in-c...t+sander+combo No idea but import motors generally have exaggerated HP ratings. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Need Advice Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like some motors outperform other motors of the same HP. Those Jet grinders seem like a good brand but they start out at $500. It would be worth it if they don't bog down under pressure. The majority of my grinders regardless of the make have Baldor motors. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Need Advice This eastwood belt grinder is cheap, its only $200, but i wonder if it will bog down under a load. https://www.eastwood.com/1-2hp-8in-c...t+sander+combo After reading reviews on this grinder i dont know if this is a good grinder. One person said no one sells the size belt this grinder takes, he said you have to special order them. That's not for me if its true. Unless this person is wrong. It takes a 2x28 belt. I have seen them with a quick google search
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Lis2323 Perhaps at this stage of the game I wouldn’t get too caught up on horsepower. My older Burr King 2”x48” is only 3/4 HP and if it was my only belt grinder I could get by just fine with it. Keeping in mind I’m not a pro or a knifemaker. Also that Jet Vaughn T has would be ideal, especially if you found one used. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Maybe I'm wrong but it seems like some motors outperform other motors of the same HP. Those Jet grinders seem like a good brand but they start out at $500. It would be worth it if they don't bog down under pressure.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander This eastwood belt grinder is cheap, its only $200, but i wonder if it will bog down under a load. https://www.eastwood.com/1-2hp-8in-c...t+sander+combo
Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Perhaps at this stage of the game I wouldn’t get too caught up on horsepower. My older Burr King 2”x48” is only 3/4 HP and if it was my only belt grinder I could get by just fine with it. Keeping in mind I’m not a pro or a knifemaker. Also that Jet Vaughn T has would be ideal, especially if you found one used. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by acourtjester I'm not sure about this statement "There are good and bad in every design, so don't let perfection be the enemy of good enough." If you are building a tool for yourself to have for sometime to come, do it right. There is not shame in making changes to make it better. Now to the grinder I built a 2" X 60" belt grinder (maybe 1985) and used the heck out of it. It was simple 2-- 6" wheels and a vertical platen 2 HP motor loved it did great. About 2 years ago I moved to a 2" X 72" belt grinder, these things are so flexible, they have many grinding possibilities. Being able to adjust the angle of the grind and different optional attachments allows then to fit into many projects start to finish. I understand not everybody can afford or have the time to build one but if you do you will be happy you did. This is the Jeremy Schmidt design, I did make a few changes, I did CNC Plasma cut the custom shaped parts. Nice grinders. That's the thing that i noticed, 2x72 belt grinders are versatile. I saw knife makers use a surface grinding attachment for their 2x72.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander I'm not sure about this statement "There are good and bad in every design, so don't let perfection be the enemy of good enough." If you are building a tool for yourself to have for sometime to come, do it right. There is not shame in making changes to make it better. Now to the grinder I built a 2" X 60" belt grinder (maybe 1985) and used the heck out of it. It was simple 2-- 6" wheels and a vertical platen 2 HP motor loved it did great. About 2 years ago I moved to a 2" X 72" belt grinder, these things are so flexible, they have many grinding possibilities. Being able to adjust the angle of the grind and different optional attachments allows then to fit into many projects start to finish. I understand not everybody can afford or have the time to build one but if you do you will be happy you did. This is the Jeremy Schmidt design, I did make a few changes, I did CNC Plasma cut the custom shaped parts.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by 52 Ford LOL! I forgot about this till you said that. The motor on my 4" grinder spins backwards. I just unhooked the starter winding and start it by hand. Never been an issue. I put my hand on the belt and drag it about a foot down the platen and it spools up. If I cut it on and don't start it, it'll trip the breaker on the power strip it's on. It REALLY isn't a problem. Takes about a second (maybe two) to start it. I thought about adding a pull start from a small engine, just because it'd be kinda funny. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk That would be funny, lol
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Need Advice old radial arm saw motor i have but the belt would spin the wrong LOL! I forgot about this till you said that. The motor on my 4" grinder spins backwards. I just unhooked the starter winding and start it by hand. Never been an issue. I put my hand on the belt and drag it about a foot down the platen and it spools up. If I cut it on and don't start it, it'll trip the breaker on the power strip it's on. It REALLY isn't a problem. Takes about a second (maybe two) to start it. I thought about adding a pull start from a small engine, just because it'd be kinda funny. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G891A using Tapatalk
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by VaughnT Everything's a trade off. Brent Bailey has one of his grinders mounted to a wall stud so it's vertical all the time. Takes up no space, yet is right there when he needs it. No tool rest? Make one. You're getting into this so you can learn some stuff, so make designing a tool rest the first thing you try to cobble together. Or, if you're like me, don't worry about it and get to making other stuff. They are handy for when you're making a knife, but they certainly aren't absolutely necessary and I still don't have one after all these years. The Multitool attachment will get you well down the road, lots of projects under your belt. There are a ton of videos on youtube that show you how to fabricate your own grinder from nothing. You can make them out of lumber if that's all you have. There are good and bad in every design, so don't let perfection be the enemy of good enough. I'm the world's worst at that, so take a lesson from me and just get something going so you have something going. As you learn about using one of them, you'll learn things that you just can't learn any other way than by using the grinder for awhile. Heck, when I built my 2x72 with my dad, I thought it was perfect and I'd never need anything else. Two weeks after that, when I had some grinding time to judge things by, I found a dozen things I'd change if I could do it all over again. Never would have guessed at any of that before I had the 2x72, and that's one of the reasons why I started hunting for a second grinder. You're right about not over thinking things. But a little foresight goes a long way in preventing some problems. You're right about getting to work too. No sense waiting for the perfect shop before building things. Thanks for the advice.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Need Advice The only thing i don't like... Everything's a trade off. Brent Bailey has one of his grinders mounted to a wall stud so it's vertical all the time. Takes up no space, yet is right there when he needs it. No tool rest? Make one. You're getting into this so you can learn some stuff, so make designing a tool rest the first thing you try to cobble together. Or, if you're like me, don't worry about it and get to making other stuff. They are handy for when you're making a knife, but they certainly aren't absolutely necessary and I still don't have one after all these years. The Multitool attachment will get you well down the road, lots of projects under your belt. There are a ton of videos on youtube that show you how to fabricate your own grinder from nothing. You can make them out of lumber if that's all you have. There are good and bad in every design, so don't let perfection be the enemy of good enough. I'm the world's worst at that, so take a lesson from me and just get something going so you have something going. As you learn about using one of them, you'll learn things that you just can't learn any other way than by using the grinder for awhile. Heck, when I built my 2x72 with my dad, I thought it was perfect and I'd never need anything else. Two weeks after that, when I had some grinding time to judge things by, I found a dozen things I'd change if I could do it all over again. Never would have guessed at any of that before I had the 2x72, and that's one of the reasons why I started hunting for a second grinder.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by VaughnT Scott Turner, Forme Industrious on Youtube, swears by his 2x36" Multitool grinder attachment, and you can certainly see him putting through its paces in his videos. I was thinking about getting their 2x48" version when the ol' Jet showed up on the local scene. The only caveat I'd offer about the Multitool is that it will bog down if you stick it on your average 1/3hp 6" bench grinder. Certainly better than nothing, and I highly recommend them for folks that are just starting out. They are orders of magnitude better than using stone wheels or woodworking sanders. If Scott can use his to do all that building, there's no doubt in my mind they are a good tool. Thanks, i agree its a good starter grinder for someone like me whos on a budget. The only thing i don't like about the multi tool grinder that i just noticed was it doesn't have a tool rest for the belt, they sell one for the disc but not the belt. Also the belt only works in the horizontal position which I'm not sure if i would like that or not. This is why i come here, so i can get advice and it makes me think about what I'm buying before i spend the money. I thought about buying this multi tool grinder attachment and making an adaptor so i can put it on an old radial arm saw motor i have but the belt would spin the wrong way and throw sparks up instead of down toward the floor, unless maybe i turn the motor upside down? But then again the horizontal position would solve the problem of sparks flying upward with the RA saw motor. That motor has plenty of power but im not sure it will work out. Maybe i can get a good bench grinder for it instead. But then again maybe just buying a cheap 2x72 grinder will be my best option. I dont know but i have time to think about it.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Need Advice ... a 2x48 belt grinder attachment for a bench grinder... Scott Turner, Forme Industrious on Youtube, swears by his 2x36" Multitool grinder attachment, and you can certainly see him putting through its paces in his videos. I was thinking about getting their 2x48" version when the ol' Jet showed up on the local scene. The only caveat I'd offer about the Multitool is that it will bog down if you stick it on your average 1/3hp 6" bench grinder. Certainly better than nothing, and I highly recommend them for folks that are just starting out. They are orders of magnitude better than using stone wheels or woodworking sanders. If Scott can use his to do all that building, there's no doubt in my mind they are a good tool.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by VaughnT I'm a big believer in having multiple grinders on hand. Just picked up an old Jet 2x48 with a 1/2hp motor and it does the job very well. I thought it might bog down like my old 1/3hp bench grinder, but it doesn't flinch a bit at what I ask of it. While I have a 2x72 on hand, the 2x48 is nice because it's set up with a coarse belt and wire wheel to do a specific job for me. It's just for knocking off burrs and cleaning things up. I'll probably invest in some different grits of belt for it just because it's so handy to have around, but I'm happy with just using it as I do. The belts are far better than stone wheels in terms of life expectancy and how much dust they throw off, and it's really nice to not have to worry about changing from one belt to another. As I recall, Brent Bailey does much the same in his videos, with multiple grinders around the workshop for doing different things. It really is nice being able to flip a switch and get to grinding! Thanks. I don't have room for multiple grinders but i am thinking about using a 2x48 belt grinder attachment for a bench grinder that i mentioned earlier, similar to the one in your picture. Its a lot cheaper than buying or building a 2x72. It will get me by till i have the chance to save or earn enough money for the bigger belt grinder if i see the need for it. If anything i will end up with 2 grinders which would come in handy like you said.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander I'm a big believer in having multiple grinders on hand. Just picked up an old Jet 2x48 with a 1/2hp motor and it does the job very well. I thought it might bog down like my old 1/3hp bench grinder, but it doesn't flinch a bit at what I ask of it. Attachment 1731415 While I have a 2x72 on hand, the 2x48 is nice because it's set up with a coarse belt and wire wheel to do a specific job for me. It's just for knocking off burrs and cleaning things up. I'll probably invest in some different grits of belt for it just because it's so handy to have around, but I'm happy with just using it as I do. The belts are far better than stone wheels in terms of life expectancy and how much dust they throw off, and it's really nice to not have to worry about changing from one belt to another. As I recall, Brent Bailey does much the same in his videos, with multiple grinders around the workshop for doing different things. It really is nice being able to flip a switch and get to grinding!
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Lis2323 That would get the job done but certainly not “hog away metal fast” by most definitions. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Thanks. I found a way to control my DC motor in another thread i started. Maybe I'll go back to the 2x72 belt grinder idea.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Originally Posted by Need Advice Im considering getting one of these belt grinder attachments for a bench grinder. I can get an adjustable speed bench grinder later on down the road to replace the single speed i have now. Has anyone used this attachment? I want something that can hog away metal fast if needed. I wonder if this grinder attachment will do the job. That would get the job done but certainly not “hog away metal fast” by most definitions. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander I can also get one of these cheap angle grinder attachments for contour grinding.
Re: Help me choose a belt grinder and sander Im considering getting one of these belt grinder attachments for a bench grinder. I can get an adjustable speed bench grinder later on down the road to replace the single speed i have now. Has anyone used this attachment? I want something that can hog away metal fast if needed. I wonder if this grinder attachment will do the job.
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