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Re: Some everyday railings (and other cool stuff)

Sulfer worked excellent , still holding 55 years later , lol , better than expoxy IMO , sets faster . and if you ever need to remove it you can heat it up and remove it .

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Originally Posted by 52 Ford

Sika anchoring epoxy comes in caulk gun tubes and use a mixing tip. Really convenient. https://usa.sika.com/en/construction...chorfix-1.html Just bore a hole, inject epoxy, insert whatever you're tryna anchor.

I have used that. Often need several tips. And be prepared to move rapidly. I just need a demo.

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Originally Posted by tapwelder

I need a lesson in applying epoxy. Never had a cost effective or mess free experience using it.

Anchoring epoxy comes in caulk gun tubes and use a mixing tip. Really convenient. https://usa.sika.com/en/construction...chorfix-1.html Just bore a hole, inject epoxy, insert whatever you're tryna anchor.

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I need a lesson in applying epoxy. Never had a cost effective or mess free experience using it.

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Originally Posted by tapwelder

Thanks for sharing. Never heard of using sulfur. How did it hold up? I have seen lead and bronze used for anchoring. N

Yeah, I've seen lead used.

I think nowaday, epoxy is the way to go.

Re: Some everyday railings (and other cool stuff)

Originally Posted by yooper

I was curious what they used now , back in 1969 I used to work for a ornamental iron shop installing metal railings , we used molten sulfur , had a propanee burner on the truck , heated powdered sulfer to liquid and poured it in the holes , set up in less than a minute , would tamp / pack it tight , put a cap of ready-mix on it , always amazed how strong the sulfer was . Just wondering if they still use sulfur ?

Thanks for sharing. Never heard of using sulfur. How did it hold up? I have seen lead and bronze used for anchoring. N

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I was curious what they used now , back in 1969 I used to work for a ornamental iron shop installing metal railings , we used molten sulfur , had a propanee burner on the truck , heated powdered sulfer to liquid and poured it in the holes , set up in less than a minute , would tamp / pack it tight , put a cap of ready-mix on it , always amazed how strong the sulfer was . Just wondering if they still use sulfur ?

Re: Some everyday railings (and other cool stuff)

Originally Posted by yooper

How are you anchoring the posts in the cement steps ?

My guess - Bore holes, set posts, grout or epoxy in place

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How are you anchoring the posts in the cement steps ?

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Attachment 1781301im back, here's a railing I did last year, seems like I can't upload more than one photo at a time now, weird Attachment 1781303

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Attachment 1781301im back, here's a railing I did last year, seems like I can't upload more than one photo at a time now, weird

Re: Some everyday railings (and other cool stuff)

Originally Posted by Country Metals

I have 1 of those scroll benders. I haven't used it in 10 years. It worked really well and has a lot of leafs for making large scrolls. I also like that you can mix and match them for odd shaped scrolls.



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I love it, I use it probably once every two months,

I'm bending 1/2" x 1" solid bar in the video, no way I could do that cold.

The forge is working out great too Attachment 1745139

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I have 1 of those scroll benders. I haven't used it in 10 years. It worked really well and has a lot of leafs for making large scrolls. I also like that you can mix and match them for odd shaped scrolls.



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Originally Posted by metalman21

Sounds like you got the forge working.

It works pretty good, I'm using it indoors now so it works a lot better, I guess outdoors there is a lot of wind to bother it

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Sounds like you got the forge working.

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Bent up some scrolls today
Attachment 1745129

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Oh, I forgot.

Since I haven't built wrought iron railings in almost 15 years. I changed my lambs tounge to attach to a ball, then the ball to the post.

This added a very nice elegant way of fully welding the area up without it looking fully welded.



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Originally Posted by Country Metals

What I use to do, because I like lambs tounge that come back to the post, is to use spray can Grey primer as that is the thinnest. Spray it in all directions in that area, then prime, then paint it. Never had any paint problems.

Now ponder coating is very hard to coat that area because the powder will never get down inside and when it melts, it doesn't flow even around the areas.

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If I need to attach to post, then to will fillet/bridge all the way around. It is comical to see a high dollar gate with scrolls or rings at the powder coater and no sealed seams or fillet in the joint.

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You'd probably think this was too much work too [emoji23]

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Originally Posted by tapwelder

I like that attitude toward railing. It is great for my business.

Great for me too

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Originally Posted by Sberry

This is wayyyyy to hard of work.

I like that attitude toward railing. It is great for my business.

Re: Some everyday railings (and other cool stuff)

What I use to do, because I like lambs tounge that come back to the post, is to use spray can Grey primer as that is the thinnest. Spray it in all directions in that area, then prime, then paint it. Never had any paint problems.

Now ponder coating is very hard to coat that area because the powder will never get down inside and when it melts, it doesn't flow even around the areas.

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This is wayyyyy to hard of work.

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Originally Posted by tapwelder

Not answering for metalman. I am curious as to why folk ask about lambstongues meeting post or be welded to post? Mine rarely do.

I think it prevent pinch point,
Easier to finish.
Gives length past the post(our local residential codes require the cap rail to cover the last
Step)

Exactly, also when I'm painting the rails, you can't get in there to paint it when it's touching the post

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Originally Posted by wb4rt

Excellent as always!

I’m curious why lamb’s tongue isn’t meeting the posts?

Not answering for metalman. I am curious as to why folk ask about lambstongues meeting post or be welded to post? Mine rarely do.

I think it prevent pinch point,
Easier to finish.
Gives length past the post(our local residential codes require the cap rail to cover the last
Step)