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Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by Meltedmetal I like the way it welds. I've done more stick than anything with it but I have been playing with Mig, Tig and Flux core. I've had no problem with the way it feeds wire. I will give you one heads up though. I was told by the store where I bought mine that the local Lincoln repair depot had seen a couple of them in with the main knob broken off. That kind of damage is not covered by warranty and the repair is almost $1000(I'm in Canada) because the knob is mounted directly on the main circuit board. The repair depot doesn't do component level repair on this and the circuit board is listed at $946 when I looked. I'm not concerned about the screen, it has a replaceable clear cover and the new Miller Multimatic also has a similar screen. I don't think the MM 211 does. Would I recommend it? Yes, if it fits what you need to do. Understand it is not a football. Don't drop it off your truck or throw things at it. Personally I believe this applies to any tool you pay that kind of money for. I built a cart for mine to specifically reduce the chance of accidental damage to mostly the front of the machine but still leave it accessible. Maybe I'll get around to posting a few pics in the cart thread. I think it has a few useful ideas. Ed(Broccoli 1) has likely done more wire fed work than me so I'd give his recommendation more weight than mine if that will be your main use. Cool... Yea that would suck if that knob breaks... Thats kinda pushing me to the miller Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by weldermn How does it weld, how do you like it, do u recommend it. It seems like the lcd screen is one more thing to break Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I like the way it welds. I've done more stick than anything with it but I have been playing with Mig, Tig and Flux core. I've had no problem with the way it feeds wire. I will give you one heads up though. I was told by the store where I bought mine that the local Lincoln repair depot had seen a couple of them in with the main knob broken off. That kind of damage is not covered by warranty and the repair is almost $1000(I'm in Canada) because the knob is mounted directly on the main circuit board. The repair depot doesn't do component level repair on this and the circuit board is listed at $946 when I looked. I'm not concerned about the screen, it has a replaceable clear cover and the new Miller Multimatic also has a similar screen. I don't think the MM 211 does. Would I recommend it? Yes, if it fits what you need to do. Understand it is not a football. Don't drop it off your truck or throw things at it. Personally I believe this applies to any tool you pay that kind of money for. I built a cart for mine to specifically reduce the chance of accidental damage to mostly the front of the machine but still leave it accessible. Maybe I'll get around to posting a few pics in the cart thread. I think it has a few useful ideas. Ed(Broccoli 1) has likely done more wire fed work than me so I'd give his recommendation more weight than mine if that will be your main use.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by weldermn Hows it compared to the old 211 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I never liked the older MM211. Folks do like them but maybe I was spoiled or just used to using the Passport Plus before getting a MM211. The Passport was one of the first inverters in a small package offered by Miller. We went with red just to try it out their vision of an inverter based machine. I'm a big fan of them.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by Broccoli1 6 months- maybe. It's relatively new. Hows it compared to the old 211 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by weldermn How long have u had it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 months- maybe. It's relatively new.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by Broccoli1 the Lincoln 210MP we got to replace the old version of the MM211 (Transformer) runs sweet! How long have u had it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? the Lincoln 210MP we got to replace the old version of the MM211 (Transformer) runs sweet!
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by Meltedmetal As far as I am concerned the wire drive issue is a non-issue generated by people who spend more time trying to critique their machine than they do welding. One person on here found the "wire drive issue" on a 210MP and then subsequently found that a Miller 211 was doing the same thing. My 210MP drives wire fine and any wobble if it exists has little or no effect on what I'm doing. I suspect that most people who have found the "wire drive issue", found it because they saw a video not because their machine was being peculiar. http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ighlight=210MP Pick your poison and I hope you enjoy whatever you get. How does it weld, how do you like it, do u recommend it. It seems like the lcd screen is one more thing to break Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? As far as I am concerned the wire drive issue is a non-issue generated by people who spend more time trying to critique their machine than they do welding. One person on here found the "wire drive issue" on a 210MP and then subsequently found that a Miller 211 was doing the same thing. My 210MP drives wire fine and any wobble if it exists has little or no effect on what I'm doing. I suspect that most people who have found the "wire drive issue", found it because they saw a video not because their machine was being peculiar. http://weldingweb.com/vbb/showthread.php...ighlight=210MP Pick your poison and I hope you enjoy whatever you get.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by figureitout I'd be cautious deciding now that you'll never tig weld. I've wasted thousands under-buying equipment thinking I'd buy the cheapest thing to suit my current needs. I bought the Lincoln 210MP intending only to mig, but wanted the ability to expand my abilities without having to buy a new machine. And just a few months later here I am about to spring for the tig kit. The Lincoln gives you room to grow, and unless you go into welding professionally it will handle anything you'll ever want to do, except AC tig. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk Yea true but all the features (including lcd screen) seem like 1 more thing to break. How do u like the lincoln 210 mp. Have you ever had wire feeding issues i hear some people do with the lincoln. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by weldermn Yea dont really want to get a tweco... hows the quality on inverter machines Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk http://bfy.tw/6pNC
hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by weldermn at welder supply thats with the the rebate... What makes you so sure? It's a MAIL in rebate. They just happen to sell the machine below MSRP.
hobart 210 mvp hmm?
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by weldermn at welder supply thats with the the rebate... i hear some people have had feeding problems with the lincoln. And im a home hobbyist so i probably will never tig weld. I'd be cautious deciding now that you'll never tig weld. I've wasted thousands under-buying equipment thinking I'd buy the cheapest thing to suit my current needs. I bought the Lincoln 210MP intending only to mig, but wanted the ability to expand my abilities without having to buy a new machine. And just a few months later here I am about to spring for the tig kit. The Lincoln gives you room to grow, and unless you go into welding professionally it will handle anything you'll ever want to do, except AC tig. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337Z using Tapatalk
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Yea dont really want to get a tweco... hows the quality on inverter machines Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by weldermn do u have a licoln 210 mp I have a lincoln 3200 HD mig that have like 10 or 12 years and it is still working. And most recently my SW200. I use to work with Miller synchrowaves and the like but that was more than 15 years ago. Right now I dont need a high amperage mig so I havent tried the 210 ,but have not heard anything bad about them. Lincoln warranty and quality should tell you something. At the end, Miller or Lincoln ,you will be ok. Chose the price and color that fits you and you will be happy. I was going to tell you to check the new Esab Rebel , but is a little bit more. They also have a smaller priced model. The lincoln is a multiprocess and you can mig,tig and stick. I think the miller is just mig and flux core. You might need some of these processes on the future and then wonder why you have to pay for another machine because yours dont have it.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by Oldendum Tweco Fabricator 211i for $855. isn't a bad choice. http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...r-pkg-w1004201 Definitely a good unit. I don't consider it a user friendly unit for a novice. The unit is better suited for an intermediate to advanced operator who has a good understand of how to read the weld puddle and how the three different controls work together.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Tweco Fabricator 211i for $855. isn't a bad choice. http://www.weldingsuppliesfromioc.co...r-pkg-w1004201
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? How are the quality on inverters? also the miller is only 60$ more so price is basically the same. the lincoln seems like it would fail easier because ther is more features including the digital screen
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by Sparkie Both are good. I have a Lincoln 210 and really like it. Go with the one that has the best dealer support in your area. Don't buy a online orphan that nobody will claim Steve Lincoln SA200 (1966 Redface) Lincoln IdealArc 250 there is a good dealer that has both the miller for 1,056$ or lincoln for 999$
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Originally Posted by DerekV The MM211 currently has a $100 mail in rebate, so it's less than $1k if you shop around (www.weldersupply.com for example). You can also get more money back if you buy additional Miller/Hobart gear. Search these forums. Tons of info and opinions of these two machines. at welder supply thats with the the rebate... i hear some people have had feeding problems with the lincoln. And im a home hobbyist so i probably will never tig weld.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? That certainly makes it a good choice as well.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? The MM211 currently has a $100 mail in rebate, so it's less than $1k if you shop around (www.weldersupply.com for example). You can also get more money back if you buy additional Miller/Hobart gear. Search these forums. Tons of info and opinions of these two machines.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? The Lincoln 210MP is a winner and at the price currently $999.00 it's a good deal. I have no doubt the Miller 211i is a good machine as well but they're a wee bit more right now. I really like my Passport Plus, which is an inverter also.
Re: hobart 210 mvp hmm? Both are good. I have a Lincoln 210 and really like it. Go with the one that has the best dealer support in your area. Don't buy a online orphan that nobody will claim Steve Lincoln SA200 (1966 Redface) Lincoln IdealArc 250
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